Best Strength Training Program/Book

In article <1107469278.454966.3860.TakeThisOut@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "tabber"
<iggy3087.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:

> What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
> free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
> the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
> these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
> strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
> stream-of-consciousness style.

PTTP is pretty good. Pricey for what you get, but a good simple program..

If you are more scientific minded and can do the application yourself
Zatsiorsky's 'Science and Practise of Strength Training' is excellent. It
explains pretty much all the principles that Pavel uses in PTTP. It also
has suggestions for strength development in a variety of applications. But
it doesn't lay a program out - you have to develop your own.
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"tabber" <iggy3087 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
> free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
> the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
> these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
> strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
> stream-of-consciousness style.

Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only has an
effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength training and diet
considerations. It explains the different muscles, different types, etc..
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In article <uJAMd.2016$Th1.1175@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"John" <y_tu_momma_tambien.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "tabber" <iggy3087.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1107469278.454966.3860@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
> > free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
> > the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
> > these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
> > strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
> > stream-of-consciousness style.
>
> Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only has an
> effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength training and diet
> considerations. It explains the different muscles, different types, etc..

Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".

Atlas wept.

--
Keith
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"Hobbes" <khobman.DeleteThis@sasktel.net> wrote in message
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> In article <uJAMd.2016$Th1.1175@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> "John" <y_tu_momma_tambien.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "tabber" <iggy3087.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1107469278.454966.3860@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > > What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
> > > free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
> > > the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
> > > these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
> > > strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
> > > stream-of-consciousness style.
> >
> > Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only has
an
> > effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength training and
diet
> > considerations. It explains the different muscles, different types,
etc..
>
> Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".
>
> Atlas wept.

Ah...the ignorance. Men's Health is for the guy wanting to feel and look
good, not for the competition bodybuilder that wants small nuts.
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John wrote:
> "Hobbes" wrote:
>>"John" wrote:
>>>"tabber" wrote:
>>>
>>>>What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
>>>>free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
>>>>the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
>>>>these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
>>>>strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
>>>>stream-of-consciousness style.
>>>
>>>Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only
>>>has an effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength
>>>training and diet considerations.

>>Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".
>>Atlas wept.
>
> Ah...the ignorance. Men's Health is for the guy wanting to feel and look
> good, not for the competition bodybuilder that wants small nuts.

There's even more. Feeling and looking good are not strength..
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In article <1106ubrr94a7u25 DeleteThis @corp.supernews.com>, Jeff Finlayson
<finlayson DeleteThis @hiwaaay.not> wrote:

> John wrote:
> > "Hobbes" wrote:
> >>"John" wrote:
> >>>"tabber" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
> >>>>free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
> >>>>the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
> >>>>these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
> >>>>strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
> >>>>stream-of-consciousness style.
> >>>
> >>>Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only
> >>>has an effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength
> >>>training and diet considerations.
>
> >>Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".
> >>Atlas wept.
> >
> > Ah...the ignorance. Men's Health is for the guy wanting to feel and look
> > good, not for the competition bodybuilder that wants small nuts.
>
> There's even more. Feeling and looking good are not strength..

First time anyone has ever accused me of being a bodybuilder...
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On 3 Feb 2005 14:21:18 -0800, "tabber" <iggy3087 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

>What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
>free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
>the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
>these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
>strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
>
>Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
>stream-of-consciousness style.


PTTP and NW are great. Pavel's latest book is Beyond Bodybuilding.
http://www.dragondoor.com/b31.html?c=pu-b31-02#order

Index http://forum.dragondoor.com/training/message/313500/

Table of Contents
http://forum.dragondoor.com/training/message/313506/
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"John" <y_tu_momma_tambien DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Hobbes" <khobman DeleteThis @sasktel.net> wrote in message
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>> Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".
>>
>> Atlas wept.
>
> Ah...the ignorance. Men's Health is for the guy wanting to feel and look
> good, not for the competition bodybuilder that wants small nuts.

'feeling and looking good' is not necessarily compatible with being good at
any sport. I want to be good at lightweight rowing, so I need to have big
legs, some core strength, and some lats and biceps, but most other muscles I
want as small as possible because they won't help me move the boat. So I do
not look particularly good. A lot of the time I feel tired, possibly sore or
stiff, and when I'm competing I need to make weight, so I have to diet,
which isn't liable to make me feel good.

Now, I need to follow a weights programme, because I need to be able to
produce a lot of power to get the boat moving as fast as possible. If I
follow a routine out of Men's Health, I will find that I am working a whole
lot of muscles I don't need to work, those muscles will grow, and I will
either fail to make weight or have to dehydrate and mess around more to do
it, either of which is bad.

'small nuts' comes from taking drugs, which is also known as cheating, and
liable to get you thrown out of most sports.

Peter
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On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 04:20:31 GMT, "John"
<y_tu_momma_tambien DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

>"Hobbes" <khobman DeleteThis @sasktel.net> wrote in message
>news:khobman-0302052136230001@192.168.1.103...
>> In article <uJAMd.2016$Th1.1175@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
>> "John" <y_tu_momma_tambien DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > "tabber" <iggy3087 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1107469278.454966.3860@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> > > What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
>> > > free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
>> > > the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
>> > > these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
>> > > strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
>> > > stream-of-consciousness style.
>> >
>> > Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only has
>an
>> > effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength training and
>diet
>> > considerations. It explains the different muscles, different types,
>etc..
>>
>> Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".
>>
>> Atlas wept.
>
>Ah...the ignorance. Men's Health is for the guy wanting to feel and look
>good, not for the competition bodybuilder that wants small nuts.
>
Aimed at yer typical beer gut, couch potato looking to get into / back
into better shape.
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khobman DeleteThis @sasktel.net (Hobbes) wrote in news:khobman-0402050806350001@
192.168.0.48:

> In article <1106ubrr94a7u25 DeleteThis @corp.supernews.com>, Jeff Finlayson
> <finlayson DeleteThis @hiwaaay.not> wrote:
>
>> John wrote:
>> > "Hobbes" wrote:
>> >>"John" wrote:
>> >>>"tabber" wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
>> >>>>free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
>> >>>>the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
>> >>>>these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
>> >>>>strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
>> >>>>stream-of-consciousness style.
>> >>>
>> >>>Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only
>> >>>has an effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength
>> >>>training and diet considerations.
>>
>> >>Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".
>> >>Atlas wept.
>> >
>> > Ah...the ignorance. Men's Health is for the guy wanting to feel and
look
>> > good, not for the competition bodybuilder that wants small nuts.
>>
>> There's even more. Feeling and looking good are not strength..
>
> First time anyone has ever accused me of being a bodybuilder...

Dood. We have your confession on tape. And I'm sure someone, somewhere has
pictures...

Hugh

--
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Hobbes wrote:
> Jeff Finlayson wrote:
>>John wrote:
>>>"Hobbes" wrote:

>>>>>Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only
>>>>>has an effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength
>>>>>training and diet considerations.
>>
>>>>Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".
>>>>Atlas wept.
>>>
>>>Ah...the ignorance. Men's Health is for the guy wanting to feel and look
>>>good, not for the competition bodybuilder that wants small nuts.
>>
>>There's even more. Feeling and looking good are not strength..
>
> First time anyone has ever accused me of being a bodybuilder...

Yea, and a competition one too, gee...
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<damifino DeleteThis @oldman.org> wrote in message
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> On 3 Feb 2005 14:21:18 -0800, "tabber" <iggy3087 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
> >free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
> >the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
> >these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
> >strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
> >
> >Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
> >stream-of-consciousness style.
>
>
> PTTP and NW are great. Pavel's latest book is Beyond Bodybuilding.
> http://www.dragondoor.com/b31.html?c=pu-b31-02#order
>
> Index http://forum.dragondoor.com/training/message/313500/
>
> Table of Contents
> http://forum.dragondoor.com/training/message/313506/
>
>
>

How do you compare this book with his PTTP book?

Is this book for pwerlifting or for general body building?
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tabber wrote:

> kettleballs

heh

Yeah, forget those kettle*balls*. Nothing beats a good ol' Olympic set
of weights.

But regarding a book or program, I'm a fan of _Powerlifting: A
Scientific Approach_ by Fredrick C. Hatfield, Ph.D.

Rockin' good read.

--
Curt
http://www.emusclemag.com/forum/
http://www.bbszene.de/
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