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Since: Nov 01, 2006 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:02 pm
Post subject: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot? Archived from groups: sci>med, others (more info?)
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Hello, All:
I am in mid-fourties and male, and I tripped over a rope four weeks ago
and fell and got my right foot sprained. The pain in the first few
minutes was excruciating, and after a short while, I could walk very
painfully with very short steps.
I first thought the pain would probably be gone after one night of
sleep, and it did NOT, and the entire foot got swollen, and I could
hardly put it into my shoe.
I then visited my primary care physician who suggested that I have it
X-rayed, which I did, and then see an orthopedicist with the X-ray.
However, the appointment with the orthopedicist was NOT until SEVEN
days after my accident. And by this time, the swell had nearly
disappeared, and the pain was much weak and I could walk much better.
So I decided to cancel the appointment with the orthopedicist.
Beginning from the THIRD week, however, it seemed the improvement came
to a standstill. I could walk nearly normally, and in the middle of the
back of the foot there appeared to be a small ridge, and the middle
section of the back was still visibly swollen--by comparing to the good
left foot. There was still pain if I attempted actions more than unsual
walk.
Now it is FOUR weeks since the injury. I may or may not have
experienced further improvement in the fourth week, though sometimes I
felt as if I was getting better, but then the slight pain and swell are
still there, and it is not capable of as much mobility as my good left
foot.
Now the question. According to your experience and/or knowledge, does
this sound like a normal case of sprained foot in the course of FOUR
weeks? Could there be bone fracture? Should I visit the orthopedicist
after all?
(Though I have medicial insurances, it is not a pleasant thing to see a
doctor as it takes lots of time and travel and also copayments.)
Thanks for reading and replying!
--Roland >> Stay informed about: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot? |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:07 am
Post subject: Re: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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qquito wrote:
> Hello, All:
>
> I am in mid-fourties and male, and I tripped over a rope four weeks ago
> and fell and got my right foot sprained. The pain in the first few
> minutes was excruciating, and after a short while, I could walk very
> painfully with very short steps.
>
A sprain is really a tear. In some ways it's worse than a bone
fracture, which you almost certainly do not have. It can take months to
fully recover and it may be weaker forever. You need to wait until you
can use it and then tape it heavily to start. Go easy and avoid
mis-stepping. Cross country courses are more injury prone than a flat
surface. >> Stay informed about: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot? |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:37 am
Post subject: Re: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Al Bundy wrote:
> qquito wrote:
> > Hello, All:
> >
> > I am in mid-fourties and male, and I tripped over a rope four weeks ago
> > and fell and got my right foot sprained. The pain in the first few
> > minutes was excruciating, and after a short while, I could walk very
> > painfully with very short steps.
> >
>
> A sprain is really a tear. In some ways it's worse than a bone
> fracture, which you almost certainly do not have. It can take months to
> fully recover and it may be weaker forever. You need to wait until you
> can use it and then tape it heavily to start. Go easy and avoid
> mis-stepping. Cross country courses are more injury prone than a flat
> surface.
I agree with Bundy, and even if it is a fracture, after four weeks
theres usually not much that can be done about it. See the doctor
anyway, but most likely he/she will give you the advice below....
Wrap your foot with an ace bandage at night when you sleep to prevent
your foot from moving. Try to limit the movement of your foot during
the day. That does not mean you CAN'T use your foot, just minimize
movement.
If the swelling and pain are of a level too high that you can't endure
it, take some Ibuprofin, as long as it won't interact with the drugs
you are currently taking.
And give it time to heel? Ha, like the pun?
I have a question, Is the pain on the bottom of your foot near the
front of the heel? or at the back of your foot near the top of your
heel, below your Achilles tendon? >> Stay informed about: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot? |
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Since: Nov 02, 2006 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:56 pm
Post subject: Re: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"qquito" <qquito.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> I first thought the pain would probably be gone after one night of
> sleep, and it did NOT, and the entire foot got swollen, and I could
> hardly put it into my shoe.
Never had a sprained ankle before, eh? Go ask a basketball
player; this is common/expected/normal.
[snip]
> Now the question. According to your experience and/or knowledge, does
> this sound like a normal case of sprained foot in the course of FOUR
> weeks?
You keep saying a "sprained foot", do you mean sprained
ankle or is the pain in the foot area? A sprained "foot" would
be unusual.
> Could there be bone fracture?
Yes.
> Should I visit the orthopedicist after all?
Yes. Four weeks is nothing for a bad sprain, and yes, it certainly
could be fractured as well. I've been there, done that.
So far, you've been given lots of bad advice. To wit:
> > A sprain is really a tear. In some ways it's worse than a bone
> > fracture, which you almost certainly do not have. It can take months to
> > fully recover and it may be weaker forever. You need to wait until you
> > can use it and then tape it heavily to start.
Don't tape it. Walk on even surfaces for short periods of
time as long as there isn't sharp pain. "Good pain" which
feels like stretching, is okay as long as you don't over-do
it. When it aches, elevate it and keep it warm.
> I agree with Bundy, and even if it is a fracture, after four weeks
> theres usually not much that can be done about it.
Bullshit. My fracture was detected and treated (surgically)
several months after the injury. I had 100% recovery.
> Wrap your foot with an ace bandage at night when you sleep to prevent
> your foot from moving.
Bullshit. Never tape your foot at night. It inhibits circulation and
slows healing. If you foot hurts, elevate it. If the weight of
the blankets hurts, build a tent out of pillows.
> Try to limit the movement of your foot during
> the day. That does not mean you CAN'T use your foot, just minimize
> movement.
Bullshit again. Move the foot as much as possible within
the limits of light pain. It'll heal faster and have better
mobility when you're done.
> If the swelling and pain are of a level too high that you can't endure
> it, take some Ibuprofin, as long as it won't interact with the drugs
> you are currently taking.
Not a good idea for the long term, or before using the
ankle. I've found that elevation is as effective as analgesics
in most cases, and will reduce the swelling.
- Lord Slime >> Stay informed about: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot? |
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Since: Nov 02, 2006 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:02 pm
Post subject: Re: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"Jason Johnson" <jason.DeleteThis@nospam.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:jason-0111062057000001@66-52-22-65.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net...
> In article <1162440173.165652.261310.DeleteThis@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
> "qquito" <qquito.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello, All:
>
> I am in mid-fourties and male, and I tripped over a rope four weeks ago
> and fell and got my right foot sprained. The pain in the first few
> minutes was excruciating, and after a short while, I could walk very
> painfully with very short steps.
>
> I first thought the pain would probably be gone after one night of
> sleep, and it did NOT, and the entire foot got swollen, and I could
> hardly put it into my shoe.
>
> I then visited my primary care physician who suggested that I have it
> X-rayed, which I did, and then see an orthopedicist with the X-ray.
> However, the appointment with the orthopedicist was NOT until SEVEN
> days after my accident. And by this time, the swell had nearly
> disappeared, and the pain was much weak and I could walk much better.
> So I decided to cancel the appointment with the orthopedicist.
>
> Beginning from the THIRD week, however, it seemed the improvement came
> to a standstill. I could walk nearly normally, and in the middle of the
> back of the foot there appeared to be a small ridge, and the middle
> section of the back was still visibly swollen--by comparing to the good
> left foot. There was still pain if I attempted actions more than unsual
> walk.
>
> Now it is FOUR weeks since the injury. I may or may not have
> experienced further improvement in the fourth week, though sometimes I
> felt as if I was getting better, but then the slight pain and swell are
> still there, and it is not capable of as much mobility as my good left
> foot.
>
> Now the question. According to your experience and/or knowledge, does
> this sound like a normal case of sprained foot in the course of FOUR
> weeks? Could there be bone fracture? Should I visit the orthopedicist
> after all?
>
> (Though I have medicial insurances, it is not a pleasant thing to see a
> doctor as it takes lots of time and travel and also copayments.)
>
> Thanks for reading and replying!
>
> --Roland
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Roland,
> If I were in your shoes, I would see the orthopedist to rule in or rule
> out a bone fracture. If you do decide to see the orthopedist, call the
> office staff and let them know about the X-Ray so they can have it
> available when you arrive for the appointment.
> Jason
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
Mate I agree on going to the orthopedist just to make sure. That being said,
a sprained foot does take a while. Especially when you start walking on it
straight away without giving it the proper rest. That will extend the pain
and time for recovery in a bad way. Ive sprained a foot a few times and four
weeks does not seem like to long to me, having in mind that you didnt give
it the proper rest. Remember to train your foot after! If you slack with
your recovery training you will only hurt yourself!!! >> Stay informed about: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot? |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:47 pm
Post subject: Re: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Lord Slime wrote:
> "qquito" <qquito.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > I first thought the pain would probably be gone after one night of
> > sleep, and it did NOT, and the entire foot got swollen, and I could
> > hardly put it into my shoe.
>
> Never had a sprained ankle before, eh? Go ask a basketball
> player; this is common/expected/normal.
>
> [snip]
>
> > Now the question. According to your experience and/or knowledge, does
> > this sound like a normal case of sprained foot in the course of FOUR
> > weeks?
>
> You keep saying a "sprained foot", do you mean sprained
> ankle or is the pain in the foot area? A sprained "foot" would
> be unusual.
>
> > Could there be bone fracture?
>
> Yes.
>
> > Should I visit the orthopedicist after all?
>
> Yes. Four weeks is nothing for a bad sprain, and yes, it certainly
> could be fractured as well. I've been there, done that.
>
> So far, you've been given lots of bad advice. To wit:
>
> > > A sprain is really a tear. In some ways it's worse than a bone
> > > fracture, which you almost certainly do not have. It can take months to
> > > fully recover and it may be weaker forever. You need to wait until you
> > > can use it and then tape it heavily to start.
>
> Don't tape it. Walk on even surfaces for short periods of
> time as long as there isn't sharp pain. "Good pain" which
> feels like stretching, is okay as long as you don't over-do
> it. When it aches, elevate it and keep it warm.
>
> > I agree with Bundy, and even if it is a fracture, after four weeks
> > theres usually not much that can be done about it.
>
Nice bedside manner sport, kiss your mother with that mouth.
> Bullshit. My fracture was detected and treated (surgically)
> several months after the injury. I had 100% recovery.
>
Then you probably had a displaced fracture that wasn't healed
correctly, this does not sound like that. Just because something worked
in your case does not mean it will work in someone elses.
> > Wrap your foot with an ace bandage at night when you sleep to prevent
> > your foot from moving.
>
> Bullshit. Never tape your foot at night. It inhibits circulation and
> slows healing. If you foot hurts, elevate it. If the weight of
> the blankets hurts, build a tent out of pillows.
>
Wrong, you are assuming it is a fracture. If he has a torn tendon or
fascia then moving it will inhibit healing... Also I didn't say tape, I
said ace bandage.
> > Try to limit the movement of your foot during
> > the day. That does not mean you CAN'T use your foot, just minimize
> > movement.
>
> Bullshit again. Move the foot as much as possible within
> the limits of light pain. It'll heal faster and have better
> mobility when you're done.
>
Again, wrong, if it is tendon or fascia damage then putting undue
stress on it will slow the healing process, NOT speed it up...
> > If the swelling and pain are of a level too high that you can't endure
> > it, take some Ibuprofin, as long as it won't interact with the drugs
> > you are currently taking.
>
> Not a good idea for the long term, or before using the
> ankle. I've found that elevation is as effective as analgesics
> in most cases, and will reduce the swelling.
>
> - Lord Slime
Lastly, you are wrong again.... anti-inflamitory useage is recommended
for a damaged tendon.
Tendonitis or Tendinopathy
http://www.healthbanks.com/PatientPortal/Public/ArticlePromoted.aspx?A...cleID=H
Calcaneal fractures
http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/fact/thr_report.cfm?Thread_ID=353&topcategory
Do some research before you give bad advice!!!!! >> Stay informed about: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot? |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:00 pm
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I got a small foot fracture in 1992 in a lead fall. The fracture healed and
I was told that the foot would be okay. After 14 years I can walk and climb
but my left foot is not what it used to be. It's always stiff in the morning
and needs to be warmed up. Then it's okay through the day walking and
climbing as long as I don't overdo, in which case it's painful the next day
or so. I have a lump just below the ankle bone which I believe to be a
snapped tendon which was never repaired. So maybe you have a broken tendon.
Having a lump that doesnt go away sounds like busted tendon. Anywhoo, my
experience. Dario
"qquito" <qquito.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162440173.165652.261310@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> Hello, All:
>
> I am in mid-fourties and male, and I tripped over a rope four weeks ago
> and fell and got my right foot sprained. The pain in the first few
> minutes was excruciating, and after a short while, I could walk very
> painfully with very short steps.
>
> I first thought the pain would probably be gone after one night of
> sleep, and it did NOT, and the entire foot got swollen, and I could
> hardly put it into my shoe.
>
> I then visited my primary care physician who suggested that I have it
> X-rayed, which I did, and then see an orthopedicist with the X-ray.
> However, the appointment with the orthopedicist was NOT until SEVEN
> days after my accident. And by this time, the swell had nearly
> disappeared, and the pain was much weak and I could walk much better.
> So I decided to cancel the appointment with the orthopedicist.
>
> Beginning from the THIRD week, however, it seemed the improvement came
> to a standstill. I could walk nearly normally, and in the middle of the
> back of the foot there appeared to be a small ridge, and the middle
> section of the back was still visibly swollen--by comparing to the good
> left foot. There was still pain if I attempted actions more than unsual
> walk.
>
> Now it is FOUR weeks since the injury. I may or may not have
> experienced further improvement in the fourth week, though sometimes I
> felt as if I was getting better, but then the slight pain and swell are
> still there, and it is not capable of as much mobility as my good left
> foot.
>
> Now the question. According to your experience and/or knowledge, does
> this sound like a normal case of sprained foot in the course of FOUR
> weeks? Could there be bone fracture? Should I visit the orthopedicist
> after all?
>
> (Though I have medicial insurances, it is not a pleasant thing to see a
> doctor as it takes lots of time and travel and also copayments.)
>
> Thanks for reading and replying!
>
> --Roland
> >> Stay informed about: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot? |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:29 pm
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Guffy: Thank you and all others for your kind and informative replies.
My pain is somewhere between the toes and the ankle. When I am at rest
and sleep, I do not quite feel the pain (except during the first week
or so.) After some ajdustment in the early part of the day, I feel
pretty good, and I can walk on flat surface at moderate speed with
almost no pain. Only when I attempt to stand on my toes, do I feel some
more pain, very bearable though. The slight swell is in the middle of
the instep (I used the word "back" in my first post in place of
"instep", which could be misleading. Sorry about that.)
Thank you again.
--Roland
TheAmazingGuffy.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
> .......
> I have a question, Is the pain on the bottom of your foot near the
> front of the heel? or at the back of your foot near the top of your
> heel, below your Achilles tendon? >> Stay informed about: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot? |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:06 am
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qquito wrote:
> Guffy: Thank you and all others for your kind and informative replies.
>
> My pain is somewhere between the toes and the ankle. When I am at rest
> and sleep, I do not quite feel the pain (except during the first week
> or so.) After some ajdustment in the early part of the day, I feel
> pretty good, and I can walk on flat surface at moderate speed with
> almost no pain. Only when I attempt to stand on my toes, do I feel some
> more pain, very bearable though. The slight swell is in the middle of
> the instep (I used the word "back" in my first post in place of
> "instep", which could be misleading. Sorry about that.)
>
> Thank you again.
>
> --Roland
>
> TheAmazingGuffy DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
> > .......
> > I have a question, Is the pain on the bottom of your foot near the
> > front of the heel? or at the back of your foot near the top of your
> > heel, below your Achilles tendon?
Sounds like you might have damaged your plantar fascia(not at the heel
,but in the center), which can been seen in the diagram below(the
tendon that stretches from the heel to the ball of your foot.)...
http://www.arthroscopy.com/sp09001.htm
See your doctor to confirm that is, what it is, and he/she should
recommend what to do. It doesn't sound like anything serious though.... >> Stay informed about: What's Going on in My Sprained Foot? |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:09 pm
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