Seated or standing dumbell alternate curls?

On Oct 15, 1:05 pm, Andrzej Rosa <bakt....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Not necessarily. You need to have your elbows on elbow pad and your
> palms should be above a centerline of the table. You could move your
> elbows on top of elbow pad, though. But it's frowned upon when having
> fun with friends, as well as overusing wrist leverages.

Aha! See, I knew it, something was real fishy...these people, they
just twist your wrist, pull your arm towards them, lean their whole
shoulder into it...I even suspect they're pulling on their chair with
the other hand! I don't know why folks can't do it in a "clean"
way...I mean, what's the point of winning something where you're
squirming and wiggling every last bit of leverage possible...it's like
people wiggling their deadlifts up or something...I only do this stuff
for fun, but people act like, I don't know, like it's the last sale of
X-Mas or something, scrambling all over....

> Even if you know you can beat them too? I'm not that disciplined.

I have in mind them close matches. When it's a clear-cut victory, no
one bothers asking for another go. But when I win a close match, the
loser ALWAYS wants to do it again. And I always try to back out, but
sometimes it's not possible. And even if I still win again, they will
ALWAYS want another round! It just never ends. But yeah, no matter
what happens, I would wind up having problems brushing my teeth, too,
or washing my hair or just lifting up a cup of water!!!

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> Andrzej Rosa 1127R

Dnia Mon, 15 Oct 2007 o 15:40 GMT Prisoner at War napisa³(a):
> On Oct 15, 6:45 am, Andrzej Rosa <bakt... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> Arm wrestling match starts with bent arms - just like SBC. In an arm
>> wrestling you try to explode from bent position. Could you train this
>> explosion with standing curls? Nope. You'd explode from extended
>> position, when you pretty much already lost a game.
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> Hmm, I never thought of it like that before.
>
> So would that be "harder" to do, starting from the half-way point like
> that? I ask because I was wondering that about the bench press, too;
> I usually wind up working to muscular failure (without exactly meaning
> to) and so the bar is on the side racks (I use the power rack because
> I don't have a spotter) for the next set, when, hopefully, I'd have
> recovered enough to put the bar back up...but I've always wondered
> whether it was harder to start from the "bottom" than from the "top,"
> or whether it was just me being tired out by then....

In general it's harder to start from bottom position. You lose so
called muscular reflex. I don't know how it works for curls in this
specific example.

>> If an opponent is able to extend your wrist, then you simply can't use
>> your biceps efficiently.
>
> Yes, I do remember the wrist being a focal point! That was the
> trick. That, and most guys try to "throw" their shoulders into it,
> which I thought was cheating.

It's not cheating in real competitions.

> Actually, now that I'm remembering more and more of this...I seem to
> recall some guys having a certain technique where they pull towards
> themselves (using their pecs??)...so instead of "pushing" left or
> right in front of them, they try to pull you in towards them! I hated
> that, too.

That's also perfectly legal technique.

>> Arguing about the role of biceps in arm wrestling seems quite absurd to
>> me. Really.
>
> Who's arguing? I'm arm-twisting your brain!
>
>> I do no curls, so I try to avoid arm-wrestling, but when
>> I'm not strong enough to turn down a challenge (once every several
>> years) I'm sore for *weeks* afterwards.
>
> Why would you arm-wrestle if you know you're in no shape for it??

Because I win anyway. Still, I'm reduced to brushing my teeth with my
left arm afterwards.

> I
> used to turn down challenges to deadlift or squat 'cause I just never
> did them. (I do now, but still feel a bit shy about it.)

You live in a beautiful world, where people challenge others in squat
and deadlift. I'm feeling jealous.

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Andrzej Rosa 1127R