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richardfangnail

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:32 pm
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My gym has both a rotary chest machine and a rotary incline chest
machine.

What difference is there, in the results?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:48 pm
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richardfangnail.DeleteThis@excite.com wrote:
> My gym has both a rotary chest machine and a rotary incline
chest
> machine.
>
> What difference is there, in the results?

The incline movement works the upper chest (clavicular head) and
shoulders more.
http://exrx.net/Muscles/PectoralisClavicular.html

The normal bench works the lower chest more.
http://exrx.net/Muscles/PectoralisSternal.html

Do both.


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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:36 pm
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richardfangnail RemoveThis @excite.com wrote:
> My gym has both a rotary chest machine and a rotary incline
chest
> machine.
>
> What difference is there, in the results?

If you have the option to use free weights, use them instead.


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Brian Fletcher

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:26 am
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"locker" <ty.RemoveThis@op.cot> wrote in message
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> richardfangnail.RemoveThis@excite.com wrote:
>> My gym has both a rotary chest machine and a rotary incline
> chest
>> machine.
>>
>> What difference is there, in the results?
>
> The incline movement works the upper chest (clavicular head) and
> shoulders more.
> http://exrx.net/Muscles/PectoralisClavicular.html
>
> The normal bench works the lower chest more.
> http://exrx.net/Muscles/PectoralisSternal.html
>
> Do both.
>
>
> locker
>
These machines are more to do with the growth of an industry, than of
muscle.

Suppose you just did every variation on "isolated" chest movements , and
trained as hard as possible, using progressive intensity, for six months.
What would you believe would be the result?

I'm leading somewhere here if you are interested...

Brian
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JMW

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:26 am
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"Brian Fletcher" <brianf88.DeleteThis@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>"locker" <ty.DeleteThis@op.cot> wrote:
>> richardfangnail.DeleteThis@excite.com wrote:
>>> My gym has both a rotary chest machine and a rotary incline
>> chest
>>> machine.
>>>
>>> What difference is there, in the results?
>>
>> The incline movement works the upper chest (clavicular head) and
>> shoulders more.
>> http://exrx.net/Muscles/PectoralisClavicular.html
>>
>> The normal bench works the lower chest more.
>> http://exrx.net/Muscles/PectoralisSternal.html
>>
>> Do both.
>>
>>
>> locker
>>
>These machines are more to do with the growth of an industry, than of
>muscle.
>
>Suppose you just did every variation on "isolated" chest movements , and
>trained as hard as possible, using progressive intensity, for six months.
>What would you believe would be the result?

[1] You would gain some hypertrophy, though not as much you would with
the compound movement.

[2] You would gain strength in those in isolated movements.

[3] You would gain comparatively little strength in the compound
movements like bench press and dip because you lacked the requisite
neuromuscular training.

>I'm leading somewhere here if you are interested...

I have no clue where you might be headed.
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jmw

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:27 am
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:50:48 -0500, JMW <jmw.RemoveThis@event.horizon> wrote:

>"Brian Fletcher" <brianf88.RemoveThis@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>I have no clue where you might be headed.

Unless it's down my pants.
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Pez D Spencer

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:33 am
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the only results you'll get from using machines are nagging injuries.
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Brian Fletcher

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:13 pm
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<jmw.DeleteThis@event.horizon.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:50:48 -0500, JMW <jmw.DeleteThis@event.horizon> wrote:
>
>>"Brian Fletcher" <brianf88.DeleteThis@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>I have no clue where you might be headed.
>
> Unless it's down my pants.

I'll leave that for the brain specialists.

Brian
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:13 pm
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:13:35 GMT, "Brian Fletcher"
<brianf88.RemoveThis@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

>
><jmw.RemoveThis@event.horizon.net> wrote in message
>news:9r3f12hsvfsf8uij6ikee5qt3mg6g0tdcj@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:50:48 -0500, JMW <jmw.RemoveThis@event.horizon> wrote:
>>
>>>"Brian Fletcher" <brianf88.RemoveThis@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>I have no clue where you might be headed.
>>
>> Unless it's down my pants.
>
>I'll leave that for the brain specialists.
>
>Brian
>

Cool! So when we going to hookup? I'm not busy being a wannabe-lawyer
this week, so maybe we can make it work.

jmw
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richardfangnail

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:01 pm
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Pez D Spencer wrote:
> the only results you'll get from using machines are nagging injuries.

After five years of use, that hasn't happened to me.
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Pez D Spencer

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:06 pm
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Pez D Spencer wrote:
>> the only results you'll get from using machines are nagging injuries.


>After five years of use, that hasn't happened to me.


keep goin' with machines and darwin will catch up with you.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:07 pm
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My gym has both a rotary chest machine and a rotary incline chest
machine.

What difference is there, in the results?

Machines are useful only if you are physically unable to perform
compound movements (other than bowel in the case of Davidson) with free
weights.

Machines are for spandex clad gym bunnies.

Butch up and lift weight.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:22 pm
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richardfangnail.RemoveThis@excite.com wrote:
> My gym has both a rotary chest machine and a rotary incline chest
> machine.


You mean shoulder wreckers? Don't use those. Better off with bar and
dumbbell press.
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Seth Breidbart

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:01 am
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In article <1142474805.689895.49670.DeleteThis@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
Pez D Spencer <colecoadam.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>Pez D Spencer wrote:
>>> the only results you'll get from using machines are nagging injuries.
>
>>After five years of use, that hasn't happened to me.
>
>keep goin' with machines and darwin will catch up with you.

Yeah, I'll bet it takes less than a century before you croak.

Seth
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