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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:23 am
Post subject: Resumed training after 5 weeks off - still have elbow pain.
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Hi All,
During the last 2 weeks I have resumed light training. The pain in the
biceps, brachialis and supinator regions has gone and there is no pain
during or after training so far. Doing reps in the 10-15 range, cutting out
hammer curls and leaving out supination during DB curls seems to be doing
the trick.
Unfortunately, I am still getting quite a bit of pain on the outside of my
elbows. It doesn't hurt during training but definitely hurts after training.
Even a shoulder workout seems to flair it up. I haven't re-introduced dips
or pull-ups yet and most of my training has been much lighter with reduced
sets (2 instead of 3). So I'm thinking there's something else going on?
Could this be related to the muscles used for gripping? Any thoughts?
It seems I have lost alot of strength in the biceps (~30%), but not that
much in chest, triceps and shoulders. In fact after 2 shoulder workouts, I
am doing the same weight in DB press as I was 8 weeks ago and with more reps
(15x18kg, 12x22kg, 10x28kg, 8x32kg). Today I did flat bench for the first
time in 2 months and managed to go very well I thought. I got a 4th set of
110kgx4 after 15x60kg, 10x80kg, 6x100kg. I didn't think I was going to get
100kg off the rack by the way my biceps had been effected. Does this sound
like I was possibly over-training the biceps?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:23 am
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On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Stephan Carydakis wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> During the last 2 weeks I have resumed light training. The pain in the
> biceps, brachialis and supinator regions has gone and there is no pain
> during or after training so far. Doing reps in the 10-15 range, cutting out
> hammer curls and leaving out supination during DB curls seems to be doing
> the trick.
>
> Unfortunately, I am still getting quite a bit of pain on the outside of my
> elbows. It doesn't hurt during training but definitely hurts after training.
> Even a shoulder workout seems to flair it up. I haven't re-introduced dips
> or pull-ups yet and most of my training has been much lighter with reduced
> sets (2 instead of 3). So I'm thinking there's something else going on?
> Could this be related to the muscles used for gripping? Any thoughts?
>
> It seems I have lost alot of strength in the biceps (~30%), but not that
> much in chest, triceps and shoulders. In fact after 2 shoulder workouts, I
> am doing the same weight in DB press as I was 8 weeks ago and with more reps
> (15x18kg, 12x22kg, 10x28kg, 8x32kg). Today I did flat bench for the first
> time in 2 months and managed to go very well I thought. I got a 4th set of
> 110kgx4 after 15x60kg, 10x80kg, 6x100kg. I didn't think I was going to get
> 100kg off the rack by the way my biceps had been effected. Does this sound
> like I was possibly over-training the biceps?
>
> Steph.
I got lateral epicondylitis from triceps exercises. What exercises are you
doing that involve elbow extension?
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:23 am
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On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Stephan Carydakis wrote:
>
> "Sir Jackery" <roehrig DeleteThis @cs.ucdavis.edu> wrote in message
> news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0702280818450.3890@pc30.cs.ucdavis.edu...
>> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Stephan Carydakis wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>
> <snip>
>
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I am still getting quite a bit of pain on the outside of
> my
>>> elbows. It doesn't hurt during training but definitely hurts after
> training.
>>> Even a shoulder workout seems to flair it up. I haven't re-introduced
> dips
>>> or pull-ups yet and most of my training has been much lighter with
> reduced
>>> sets (2 instead of 3). So I'm thinking there's something else going on?
>>> Could this be related to the muscles used for gripping? Any thoughts?
>>>
>
> <snip>
>
>>>
>>> Steph.
>>
>> I got lateral epicondylitis from triceps exercises. What exercises are you
>> doing that involve elbow extension?
>>
>
> OK. I did have tennis elbow about 10 years ago when I was a full-time
> musician and did 4-5 gigs a week for 5.5years. At the moment I'm doing
> ticeps press-down and skull crushers.
My personal experience is that skull crushers seemed to hurt more than
push-downs (a lot more). Overhead extensions hurt the worst.
I had tendinitis in my wrists, hands, elbows, and shoulders that I
acquired from over-training. I wasn't isolating articulations well and was
exercising muscles multiple days in a row. I changed my workout
substantially; isolating things as best as I knew how and allowing my
muscles more rest time. Instead of letting up for 6 months like the doctor
(quack) suggested, I took the medicine she prescribed for about a year and
a half (ibuprofen). A couple of weeks ago I stopped taking it and have not
had any pain yet.
<knocking on wood>
Perhaps a regimen change would solve your problem? Perhaps over-medicating
yourself for an absurd amount of time might help? Maybe some combination
of the two? Luckily you have the brilliant minds of MFW to critique what
you decide to do. (-;
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:46 am
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"Stephan Carydakis" <scarydakis.RemoveThis@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:es3s9g$aok$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
> Hi All,
>
> During the last 2 weeks I have resumed light training. The pain in
> the
> biceps, brachialis and supinator regions has gone and there is no pain
> during or after training so far. Doing reps in the 10-15 range,
> cutting out
> hammer curls and leaving out supination during DB curls seems to be
> doing
> the trick.
>
> Unfortunately, I am still getting quite a bit of pain on the outside
> of my
> elbows. It doesn't hurt during training but definitely hurts after
> training.
> Even a shoulder workout seems to flair it up. I haven't re-introduced
> dips
> or pull-ups yet and most of my training has been much lighter with
> reduced
> sets (2 instead of 3). So I'm thinking there's something else going
> on?
> Could this be related to the muscles used for gripping? Any thoughts?
>
> It seems I have lost alot of strength in the biceps (~30%), but not
> that
> much in chest, triceps and shoulders. In fact after 2 shoulder
> workouts, I
> am doing the same weight in DB press as I was 8 weeks ago and with
> more reps
> (15x18kg, 12x22kg, 10x28kg, 8x32kg). Today I did flat bench for the
> first
> time in 2 months and managed to go very well I thought. I got a 4th
> set of
> 110kgx4 after 15x60kg, 10x80kg, 6x100kg. I didn't think I was going to
> get
> 100kg off the rack by the way my biceps had been effected. Does this
> sound
> like I was possibly over-training the biceps?
>
> Steph.
It sounds like you need the exercise version of an elimination diet -
cut out all exercises that even remotely bother your elbow, and add them
back to your program slowly, one at a time. Start by finding one or two
exercises that don't bother you, hopefully fairly big, compound types,
and stick with them for at least a week or two before you add anything
else.
FWIW, I have known a couple of people with elbow problems for whom doing
grip work was OK, and they focused on things like closing the next size
C of C gripper for a few months, reporting that their arm strength was
at least somewhat maintained in the process.
-S-
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:19 pm
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"Sir Jackery" <roehrig.DeleteThis@cs.ucdavis.edu> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Stephan Carydakis wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
<snip>
> >
> > Unfortunately, I am still getting quite a bit of pain on the outside of
my
> > elbows. It doesn't hurt during training but definitely hurts after
training.
> > Even a shoulder workout seems to flair it up. I haven't re-introduced
dips
> > or pull-ups yet and most of my training has been much lighter with
reduced
> > sets (2 instead of 3). So I'm thinking there's something else going on?
> > Could this be related to the muscles used for gripping? Any thoughts?
> >
<snip>
> >
> > Steph.
>
> I got lateral epicondylitis from triceps exercises. What exercises are you
> doing that involve elbow extension?
>
OK. I did have tennis elbow about 10 years ago when I was a full-time
musician and did 4-5 gigs a week for 5.5years. At the moment I'm doing
ticeps press-down and skull crushers.
> --Sir Jackery >> Stay informed about: Resumed training after 5 weeks off - still have elbow pain. |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:22 pm
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In news:es3s9g$aok$1@otis.netspace.net.au,
Stephan Carydakis <scarydakis.RemoveThis@nospam.gmail.com> typed:
> Hi All,
>
> During the last 2 weeks I have resumed light training. The pain in
> the biceps, brachialis and supinator regions has gone and there is no
> pain during or after training so far. Doing reps in the 10-15 range,
> cutting out hammer curls and leaving out supination during DB curls
> seems to be doing the trick.
>
> Unfortunately, I am still getting quite a bit of pain on the outside
> of my elbows.
Above or below the nobbly bit?
> It doesn't hurt during training but definitely hurts
> after training. Even a shoulder workout seems to flair it up. I
> haven't re-introduced dips or pull-ups yet and most of my training
> has been much lighter with reduced sets (2 instead of 3). So I'm
> thinking there's something else going on? Could this be related to
> the muscles used for gripping? Any thoughts?
>
> It seems I have lost alot of strength in the biceps (~30%), but not
> that much in chest, triceps and shoulders. In fact after 2 shoulder
> workouts, I am doing the same weight in DB press as I was 8 weeks ago
> and with more reps (15x18kg, 12x22kg, 10x28kg, 8x32kg). Today I did
> flat bench for the first time in 2 months and managed to go very well
> I thought. I got a 4th set of 110kgx4 after 15x60kg, 10x80kg,
> 6x100kg. I didn't think I was going to get 100kg off the rack by the
> way my biceps had been effected. Does this sound like I was possibly
> over-training the biceps?
>
> Steph.
--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:45 pm
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In news:54lpv6F21c9gjU1@mid.individual.net,
Steve Freides <steve RemoveThis @fridayscomputer.com> typed:
> "Stephan Carydakis" <scarydakis RemoveThis @nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:es3s9g$aok$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>> Hi All,
>>
>> During the last 2 weeks I have resumed light training. The pain in
>> the
>> biceps, brachialis and supinator regions has gone and there is no
>> pain during or after training so far. Doing reps in the 10-15 range,
>> cutting out
>> hammer curls and leaving out supination during DB curls seems to be
>> doing
>> the trick.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I am still getting quite a bit of pain on the outside
>> of my
>> elbows. It doesn't hurt during training but definitely hurts after
>> training.
>> Even a shoulder workout seems to flair it up. I haven't
>> re-introduced dips
>> or pull-ups yet and most of my training has been much lighter with
>> reduced
>> sets (2 instead of 3). So I'm thinking there's something else going
>> on?
>> Could this be related to the muscles used for gripping? Any thoughts?
>>
>> It seems I have lost alot of strength in the biceps (~30%), but not
>> that
>> much in chest, triceps and shoulders. In fact after 2 shoulder
>> workouts, I
>> am doing the same weight in DB press as I was 8 weeks ago and with
>> more reps
>> (15x18kg, 12x22kg, 10x28kg, 8x32kg). Today I did flat bench for the
>> first
>> time in 2 months and managed to go very well I thought. I got a 4th
>> set of
>> 110kgx4 after 15x60kg, 10x80kg, 6x100kg. I didn't think I was going
>> to get
>> 100kg off the rack by the way my biceps had been effected. Does this
>> sound
>> like I was possibly over-training the biceps?
>>
>> Steph.
>
> It sounds like you need the exercise version of an elimination diet -
> cut out all exercises that even remotely bother your elbow, and add
> them back to your program slowly, one at a time. Start by finding
> one or two exercises that don't bother you, hopefully fairly big,
> compound types, and stick with them for at least a week or two before
> you add anything else.
>
> FWIW, I have known a couple of people with elbow problems for whom
> doing grip work was OK, and they focused on things like closing the
> next size C of C gripper for a few months, reporting that their arm
> strength was at least somewhat maintained in the process.
>
If it is a problem with the ulna nerve
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulnar_nerve] then using CoC's may aggravate
the problem.
--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:45 pm
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"Bully" <bully62.TakeThisOut@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote in message
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> In news:54lpv6F21c9gjU1@mid.individual.net,
> Steve Freides <steve.TakeThisOut@fridayscomputer.com> typed:
>> "Stephan Carydakis" <scarydakis.TakeThisOut@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:es3s9g$aok$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> During the last 2 weeks I have resumed light training. The pain in
>>> the
>>> biceps, brachialis and supinator regions has gone and there is no
>>> pain during or after training so far. Doing reps in the 10-15 range,
>>> cutting out
>>> hammer curls and leaving out supination during DB curls seems to be
>>> doing
>>> the trick.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I am still getting quite a bit of pain on the outside
>>> of my
>>> elbows. It doesn't hurt during training but definitely hurts after
>>> training.
>>> Even a shoulder workout seems to flair it up. I haven't
>>> re-introduced dips
>>> or pull-ups yet and most of my training has been much lighter with
>>> reduced
>>> sets (2 instead of 3). So I'm thinking there's something else going
>>> on?
>>> Could this be related to the muscles used for gripping? Any
>>> thoughts?
>>>
>>> It seems I have lost alot of strength in the biceps (~30%), but not
>>> that
>>> much in chest, triceps and shoulders. In fact after 2 shoulder
>>> workouts, I
>>> am doing the same weight in DB press as I was 8 weeks ago and with
>>> more reps
>>> (15x18kg, 12x22kg, 10x28kg, 8x32kg). Today I did flat bench for the
>>> first
>>> time in 2 months and managed to go very well I thought. I got a 4th
>>> set of
>>> 110kgx4 after 15x60kg, 10x80kg, 6x100kg. I didn't think I was going
>>> to get
>>> 100kg off the rack by the way my biceps had been effected. Does this
>>> sound
>>> like I was possibly over-training the biceps?
>>>
>>> Steph.
>>
>> It sounds like you need the exercise version of an elimination diet -
>> cut out all exercises that even remotely bother your elbow, and add
>> them back to your program slowly, one at a time. Start by finding
>> one or two exercises that don't bother you, hopefully fairly big,
>> compound types, and stick with them for at least a week or two before
>> you add anything else.
>>
>> FWIW, I have known a couple of people with elbow problems for whom
>> doing grip work was OK, and they focused on things like closing the
>> next size C of C gripper for a few months, reporting that their arm
>> strength was at least somewhat maintained in the process.
>>
>
> If it is a problem with the ulna nerve
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulnar_nerve] then using CoC's may
> aggravate the problem.
Could be. I recommended trying only one or two movements and seeing how
that goes - if it goes well, add another, and if it doesn't, switch to
another. Soon enough he should be able to figure out which movements
bother him and which don't.
-S-
http://www.kbnj.com
>
>
> --
> Bully
> Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
>
> "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist
> sees
> the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:02 pm
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On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Stephan Carydakis wrote:
>
> "Sir Jackery" <roehrig RemoveThis @cs.ucdavis.edu> wrote in message
> news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0702280913320.3991@pc30.cs.ucdavis.edu...
>> On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Stephan Carydakis wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Sir Jackery" <roehrig RemoveThis @cs.ucdavis.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0702280818450.3890@pc30.cs.ucdavis.edu...
>>>> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Stephan Carydakis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, I am still getting quite a bit of pain on the outside
> of
>>> my
>>>>> elbows. It doesn't hurt during training but definitely hurts after
>>> training.
>>>>> Even a shoulder workout seems to flair it up. I haven't re-introduced
>>> dips
>>>>> or pull-ups yet and most of my training has been much lighter with
>>> reduced
>>>>> sets (2 instead of 3). So I'm thinking there's something else going
> on?
>>>>> Could this be related to the muscles used for gripping? Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Steph.
>>>>
>>>> I got lateral epicondylitis from triceps exercises. What exercises are
> you
>>>> doing that involve elbow extension?
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK. I did have tennis elbow about 10 years ago when I was a full-time
>>> musician and did 4-5 gigs a week for 5.5years. At the moment I'm doing
>>> ticeps press-down and skull crushers.
>>
>> My personal experience is that skull crushers seemed to hurt more than
>> push-downs (a lot more). Overhead extensions hurt the worst.
>>
>> I had tendinitis in my wrists, hands, elbows, and shoulders that I
>> acquired from over-training. I wasn't isolating articulations well and was
>> exercising muscles multiple days in a row. I changed my workout
>> substantially; isolating things as best as I knew how and allowing my
>> muscles more rest time. Instead of letting up for 6 months like the doctor
>> (quack) suggested, I took the medicine she prescribed for about a year and
>> a half (ibuprofen). A couple of weeks ago I stopped taking it and have not
>> had any pain yet.
>>
>
> I think changing things up may be a good thing. I use a pain killer which
> contains ibuprofen. I find it works well but there's that "rumour" about it
> causing serious stomach problems?
>
>> <knocking on wood>
>>
>> Perhaps a regimen change would solve your problem? Perhaps over-medicating
>> yourself for an absurd amount of time might help? Maybe some combination
>> of the two? Luckily you have the brilliant minds of MFW to critique what
>> you decide to do. (-;
>>
>>
>> --Sir Jackery
>
> A change is already occurring with good results thus far. I obviously need
> to isolate the cause/s of the pain in the elbows and act accordingly. I
> would really love to find a good sports medicine type person who could
> diagnose and offer treatment correctly. Between altered training, a good doc
> and the enormous intellectual capacity on MFW, I'm sure I'll be on the road
> to recovery in no time.
>
> Steph.
>
>
>
By the advice of someone on this ng I contacted my local university and
they had a sports medicine department. You might try the same to find a
good sports med specialist.
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"Sir Jackery" <roehrig DeleteThis @cs.ucdavis.edu> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Stephan Carydakis wrote:
>
> >
> > "Sir Jackery" <roehrig DeleteThis @cs.ucdavis.edu> wrote in message
> > news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0702280818450.3890@pc30.cs.ucdavis.edu...
> >> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Stephan Carydakis wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately, I am still getting quite a bit of pain on the outside
of
> > my
> >>> elbows. It doesn't hurt during training but definitely hurts after
> > training.
> >>> Even a shoulder workout seems to flair it up. I haven't re-introduced
> > dips
> >>> or pull-ups yet and most of my training has been much lighter with
> > reduced
> >>> sets (2 instead of 3). So I'm thinking there's something else going
on?
> >>> Could this be related to the muscles used for gripping? Any thoughts?
> >>>
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >>>
> >>> Steph.
> >>
> >> I got lateral epicondylitis from triceps exercises. What exercises are
you
> >> doing that involve elbow extension?
> >>
> >
> > OK. I did have tennis elbow about 10 years ago when I was a full-time
> > musician and did 4-5 gigs a week for 5.5years. At the moment I'm doing
> > ticeps press-down and skull crushers.
>
> My personal experience is that skull crushers seemed to hurt more than
> push-downs (a lot more). Overhead extensions hurt the worst.
>
> I had tendinitis in my wrists, hands, elbows, and shoulders that I
> acquired from over-training. I wasn't isolating articulations well and was
> exercising muscles multiple days in a row. I changed my workout
> substantially; isolating things as best as I knew how and allowing my
> muscles more rest time. Instead of letting up for 6 months like the doctor
> (quack) suggested, I took the medicine she prescribed for about a year and
> a half (ibuprofen). A couple of weeks ago I stopped taking it and have not
> had any pain yet.
>
I think changing things up may be a good thing. I use a pain killer which
contains ibuprofen. I find it works well but there's that "rumour" about it
causing serious stomach problems?
> <knocking on wood>
>
> Perhaps a regimen change would solve your problem? Perhaps over-medicating
> yourself for an absurd amount of time might help? Maybe some combination
> of the two? Luckily you have the brilliant minds of MFW to critique what
> you decide to do. (-;
>
>
> --Sir Jackery
A change is already occurring with good results thus far. I obviously need
to isolate the cause/s of the pain in the elbows and act accordingly. I
would really love to find a good sports medicine type person who could
diagnose and offer treatment correctly. Between altered training, a good doc
and the enormous intellectual capacity on MFW, I'm sure I'll be on the road
to recovery in no time.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:21 am
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"Bully" <bully62.DeleteThis@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote in message
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> In news:es3s9g$aok$1@otis.netspace.net.au,
> Stephan Carydakis <scarydakis.DeleteThis@nospam.gmail.com> typed:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > During the last 2 weeks I have resumed light training. The pain in
> > the biceps, brachialis and supinator regions has gone and there is no
> > pain during or after training so far. Doing reps in the 10-15 range,
> > cutting out hammer curls and leaving out supination during DB curls
> > seems to be doing the trick.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I am still getting quite a bit of pain on the outside
> > of my elbows.
>
> Above or below the nobbly bit?
If you make a right angle with your arm, it is exactly on the boney sharp
bit. If massage it, I can feel what seems like tendon moving around. It also
hurts!
check out http://scarydakis.customer.netspace.net.au/trainingpics/elbow.jpg
(PLEASE NOTE: that is not my arm)
<snip>
> >
> > Steph.
>
>
>
> --
> Bully
> Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
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> "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
> the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill
>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:21 am
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In news:es46js$d2j$1@otis.netspace.net.au,
Stephan Carydakis <scarydakis.RemoveThis@nospam.gmail.com> typed:
> "Bully" <bully62.RemoveThis@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote in message
> news:54lhhdF1uf5p5U1@mid.individual.net...
>> In news:es3s9g$aok$1@otis.netspace.net.au,
>> Stephan Carydakis <scarydakis.RemoveThis@nospam.gmail.com> typed:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> During the last 2 weeks I have resumed light training. The pain in
>>> the biceps, brachialis and supinator regions has gone and there is
>>> no pain during or after training so far. Doing reps in the 10-15
>>> range, cutting out hammer curls and leaving out supination during
>>> DB curls seems to be doing the trick.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I am still getting quite a bit of pain on the outside
>>> of my elbows.
>>
>> Above or below the nobbly bit?
>
> If you make a right angle with your arm, it is exactly on the boney
> sharp bit. If massage it, I can feel what seems like tendon moving
> around. It also hurts!
>
> check out
> http://scarydakis.customer.netspace.net.au/trainingpics/elbow.jpg
> (PLEASE NOTE: that is not my arm)
Neither is it the boney sharp bit. Looks like where the ulna nerve routes
alongside the elbow. It's on the outside of the elbow.,right?
>
> <snip>
>
>>>
>>> Steph.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bully
>> Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
>>
>> "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist
>> sees the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill
>>
>>
> Steph.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:13 am
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:13 am
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"Sir Jackery" <roehrig.DeleteThis@cs.ucdavis.edu> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Stephan Carydakis wrote:
>
> >
> > "Sir Jackery" <roehrig.DeleteThis@cs.ucdavis.edu> wrote in message
> > news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0702280913320.3991@pc30.cs.ucdavis.edu...
> >> On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Stephan Carydakis wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "Sir Jackery" <roehrig.DeleteThis@cs.ucdavis.edu> wrote in message
> >>> news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0702280818450.3890@pc30.cs.ucdavis.edu...
> >>>> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Stephan Carydakis wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>> <snip>
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Unfortunately, I am still getting quite a bit of pain on the outside
> > of
> >>> my
> >>>>> elbows. It doesn't hurt during training but definitely hurts after
> >>> training.
> >>>>> Even a shoulder workout seems to flair it up. I haven't
re-introduced
> >>> dips
> >>>>> or pull-ups yet and most of my training has been much lighter with
> >>> reduced
> >>>>> sets (2 instead of 3). So I'm thinking there's something else going
> > on?
> >>>>> Could this be related to the muscles used for gripping? Any
thoughts?
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>> <snip>
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Steph.
> >>>>
> >>>> I got lateral epicondylitis from triceps exercises. What exercises
are
> > you
> >>>> doing that involve elbow extension?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> OK. I did have tennis elbow about 10 years ago when I was a full-time
> >>> musician and did 4-5 gigs a week for 5.5years. At the moment I'm doing
> >>> ticeps press-down and skull crushers.
> >>
> >> My personal experience is that skull crushers seemed to hurt more than
> >> push-downs (a lot more). Overhead extensions hurt the worst.
> >>
> >> I had tendinitis in my wrists, hands, elbows, and shoulders that I
> >> acquired from over-training. I wasn't isolating articulations well and
was
> >> exercising muscles multiple days in a row. I changed my workout
> >> substantially; isolating things as best as I knew how and allowing my
> >> muscles more rest time. Instead of letting up for 6 months like the
doctor
> >> (quack) suggested, I took the medicine she prescribed for about a year
and
> >> a half (ibuprofen). A couple of weeks ago I stopped taking it and have
not
> >> had any pain yet.
> >>
> >
> > I think changing things up may be a good thing. I use a pain killer
which
> > contains ibuprofen. I find it works well but there's that "rumour" about
it
> > causing serious stomach problems?
> >
> >> <knocking on wood>
> >>
> >> Perhaps a regimen change would solve your problem? Perhaps
over-medicating
> >> yourself for an absurd amount of time might help? Maybe some
combination
> >> of the two? Luckily you have the brilliant minds of MFW to critique
what
> >> you decide to do. (-;
> >>
> >>
> >> --Sir Jackery
> >
> > A change is already occurring with good results thus far. I obviously
need
> > to isolate the cause/s of the pain in the elbows and act accordingly. I
> > would really love to find a good sports medicine type person who could
> > diagnose and offer treatment correctly. Between altered training, a good
doc
> > and the enormous intellectual capacity on MFW, I'm sure I'll be on the
road
> > to recovery in no time.
> >
> > Steph.
> >
> >
> >
>
> By the advice of someone on this ng I contacted my local university and
> they had a sports medicine department. You might try the same to find a
> good sports med specialist.
>
Good idea.
>
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:23 am
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On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Pete wrote:
> "Stephan Carydakis" <scarydakis RemoveThis @nospam.gmail.com> schreef:
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>> I think changing things up may be a good thing. I use a pain killer which
>> contains ibuprofen.
>
> Working out on pain-kilers while there is allready something wrong is a bad
> idea.
> You could make things worse, without noticing it during the workout.
>
> --
> Pete
I dropped a 90lb dumbell on my chest during a workout after I took some
hydrocodone. It left a bruise with the pattern of my shirt on my peck (-:
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