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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:09:46 GMT, paul.DeleteThis@paul.com wrote:

>On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:21:22 -0500, Will Brink
><WillBrink.DeleteThis@NOSPAM-Comcast.net> wrote:
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>>In article
>><xL3Zd.133006$Th1.120333@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
>> "John" <y_tu_momma_tambien.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > There's different ratios depending on what you're up to and who you
>>> > believe. I gave you the MFW-standard ratio for weightlifters.
>>>
>>> So I should be taking 185 grams of protein a day? That seems a bit high.
>>
>>Not if you weigh 185lbs it's not.
>>
>>> But
>>> if it were 1 g per kg of LBM, then I'd be taking 84 g a day, which seems
>>> more realistic. But, if I am wrong, please correct me.
>>
>>1g per lb is the norm and just a tad over what studies suggest is
>>required (with some debate).
>
>It is my understanding that studies suggest that .8 grams protein per
>pound of LBM is the *maximum* that one needs for building muscle while
>engaging in weight lifting. IOW studies suggest that anything *over*
>that amount is wasted for the purpose of hypertrophy unless you are
>using anabolic steroids.
>
>So a 185 pound person who has a body fat percentage of 15% would not
>need more than about 125 grams of protein and might do fine with only
>115 grams or so.
>
> If he ingested 185 grams of protein that would be far more than
>studies suggest is needed.
>
>Paul

I fit that example very well, and I'd agree that 185g protein/day is
pretty high. I'd have to eat about 2 lbs of meat a day to get that,
and it's too much I think, unless maybe I were doing some seriously
high-volume weight training.

But I eat a lot of fat and carbs, too. On a PSMF, it'd probably be
about right.

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On 14 Mar 2005 08:49:01 -0800, "rick++" <rick303 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

>One way it helps your kidney:
>it keeps your wallet so light that
>it wont be pressing weight on the kidney.

Must be a diet supplement too if it helps you lose £s.

Ray

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paul DeleteThis @paul.com wrote:
> Will Brink wrote:
>>John wrote:

>>>So I should be taking 185 grams of protein a day? That seems a bit high.
>>
>>Not if you weigh 185lbs it's not.
>>
>>>if it were 1 g per kg of LBM, then I'd be taking 84 g a day, which seems
>>>more realistic. But, if I am wrong, please correct me.
>>
>>1g per lb is the norm and just a tad over what studies suggest is
>>required (with some debate).
>
> It is my understanding that studies suggest that .8 grams protein per
> pound of LBM is the *maximum* that one needs for building muscle while
> engaging in weight lifting.

That's a Minimum requirement.

> IOW studies suggest that anything *over*
> that amount is wasted for the purpose of hypertrophy

Sure. But 0.8g per lb is not a perfect recommendation. And consuming
the perfectly exact amount of protein each day would be difficult.
A little too much protein sometimes, big deal..
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"Eric" <vic20.DeleteThis@insightbb.com> wrote in news:1110775897.878460.128150
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

> 1 6 oz can of tuna packed in water has roughly 32 grams of protein and
> costs around 50 cents, so what exactly is the problem with erring on
> the side of having 'too much protien'?. I'm curious if you spend this
> much brain power thinking about your next session of squats...In short
> just lift the weight.
>

There are studies showing that eating way over 1g/lb is counterproductive--
DZ cited them earlier. But you'd really have to work at it.

Against this set that some amount of protein will be broken down for energy,
more if you're restricting calories.

Hugh

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