|
Related Topics:
| Calories in vegetable oil - I cant believe 1 table spoon of Corn Oil, Canola Oil , or Olive Oil = 120 One cheezy little of the stuff is soo many calories. Does anyone know if this number is reduced when frying it? Like frying lean chicken in corn oil. ..
How Much to Increase Calories Per Week? - Hi, I just started my HST cycle on Monday, and I'm currently at 2500 calories per day w/ 200 grams protein (I'm ~ 205lbs). I will need to eat more to support more muscle mass, but I don't want to put on too much fat. How often and by how much should I
Lose More Calories When Cold?? - I've always my ability to eat whatever I want without gaining weight to, among other things, enjoying cold weather, such that I walk around outside in fifty degree weather wearing shorts and a tee shirt! My thinking is that the cold..
Calories used in manual labour - Hope this isn't a double post I am trying to work out how many calories I have burn this week. My job was to move 8 tons of sand in 25KG bags from pallets to 30 meters away down stairs about 1meter high an hand them to someone. Then walk back empty and.
Calories burned per LB of lean muscle - Can anyone refer me to a recent study that proved that BMR is not affected by increase in muscle Am trying to find this study
|
|
|
Next: Weight Training & Fat Loss: The Diet Universe--A Search Engine to help you
|
| Author |
Message |
External
Since: Apr 21, 2007
Posts: 9
|
(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:08 pm
Post subject: Protein or Calories?
Archived from groups: misc>fitness>weights (more info?)
|
|
|
I posted earlier that I'm trying to lose about 4" of belly fat for the
next 8 weeks for an upcoming charity event, while keeping as much
muscle as possible. For now, my question is regarding protein
supplements, and how much I should be getting.
The protein I've been using is Body Fortress 100% whey protein (the
Wal-Mart kind), which is pretty much the only thing available locally.
A serving size offers 23g of protein, 110 calories (a little more than
the optimum 4 calories per gram of protein, but not much more), 2g of
carbs, 1g of sugar, and 55mg of sodium (this on surprised me, since
it's considerably more than a can of soda).
My daily diet brings in about 40-50g of protein (I eat a lot of
chicken), and I'm adding 2 servings of the Body Fortress protein (one
serving about 15 minutes before working out, and another about 15
minutes after working out). I usually don't add protein on my rest
day, unless I'm particularly tired or sore.
It's also worth knowing that I add 9g of glutamine (4.5g before, 4.5g
after the workout), and until recently, 5g of creatine. I dropped the
creatine with the hopes that I can re-load a couple of weeks before
the event, and hopefully see a burst of improvement.
Here are my actual questions:
1. If you've seen my routine posted in an earlier thread, I'm
wondering if 100g of protein is enough? I haven't gained any
additional belly, so I feel confident that it's being utilized well,
but I do not know if I should add more with the current routine.
2. Since I'm currently trying to lose fat, I'm concerned about the
additional 220 calories that I'm bringing in. Since I haven't LOST fat
since I started lifting, I'm wondering if dropping the calories would
help me to lose the fat?
So, I guess the short question is, should I increase protein, decrease
protein, or stay on course?
TIA,
Jason |
|
| Back to top |
|
 | |
External
Since: Nov 18, 2007
Posts: 53
|
(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:50 pm
Post subject: Re: Protein or Calories? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
Jason" <jwcarlton.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177456097.107884.29820@u32g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>I posted earlier that I'm trying to lose about 4" of belly fat for the
> next 8 weeks for an upcoming charity event, while keeping as much
> muscle as possible. For now, my question is regarding protein
> supplements, and how much I should be getting.
>
> The protein I've been using is Body Fortress 100% whey protein (the
> Wal-Mart kind), which is pretty much the only thing available locally.
> A serving size offers 23g of protein, 110 calories (a little more than
> the optimum 4 calories per gram of protein, but not much more), 2g of
> carbs, 1g of sugar, and 55mg of sodium (this on surprised me, since
> it's considerably more than a can of soda).
>
> My daily diet brings in about 40-50g of protein (I eat a lot of
> chicken), and I'm adding 2 servings of the Body Fortress protein (one
> serving about 15 minutes before working out, and another about 15
> minutes after working out). I usually don't add protein on my rest
> day, unless I'm particularly tired or sore.
>
> It's also worth knowing that I add 9g of glutamine (4.5g before, 4.5g
> after the workout), and until recently, 5g of creatine. I dropped the
> creatine with the hopes that I can re-load a couple of weeks before
> the event, and hopefully see a burst of improvement.
>
> Here are my actual questions:
>
> 1. If you've seen my routine posted in an earlier thread, I'm
> wondering if 100g of protein is enough? I haven't gained any
> additional belly, so I feel confident that it's being utilized well,
> but I do not know if I should add more with the current routine.
>
> 2. Since I'm currently trying to lose fat, I'm concerned about the
> additional 220 calories that I'm bringing in. Since I haven't LOST fat
> since I started lifting, I'm wondering if dropping the calories would
> help me to lose the fat?
>
> So, I guess the short question is, should I increase protein, decrease
> protein, or stay on course?
>
> TIA,
>
> Jason
>
100 gr. is far too little protein. The min I would take in would be 1 gr/lb
and that being whole proteins from meat, eggs, dairy etc. I generally don't
even count the protein that I take in with carbs etc. Do you know how many
cals you are taking in? What is your % of fat-pro-carb? If anything, I would
increase the protein and cut back in carbs and fats that are not helping
you. I get 50 gr of protein from a single can of canned chicken breast, so
it is not hard to get enough protein just from food. I'm not a big
supplement guy as I enjoy eating protein, but I do use Whey if I am in a
hurry or post workout. If you have not lost any fat so far, then I would cut
the cals and possibly add light aerobic work post work out.
--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche
http://www.hardbopdrums.com/ |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Mar 12, 2007
Posts: 62
|
(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:18 am
Post subject: Re: Protein or Calories? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
In news:1177456097.107884.29820@u32g2000prd.googlegroups.com,
Jason <jwcarlton.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> typed:
> I posted earlier that I'm trying to lose about 4" of belly fat for the
> next 8 weeks for an upcoming charity event, while keeping as much
> muscle as possible. For now, my question is regarding protein
> supplements, and how much I should be getting.
>
> The protein I've been using is Body Fortress 100% whey protein (the
> Wal-Mart kind), which is pretty much the only thing available locally.
> A serving size offers 23g of protein, 110 calories (a little more than
> the optimum 4 calories per gram of protein, but not much more), 2g of
> carbs, 1g of sugar, and 55mg of sodium (this on surprised me, since
> it's considerably more than a can of soda).
>
> My daily diet brings in about 40-50g of protein (I eat a lot of
> chicken), and I'm adding 2 servings of the Body Fortress protein (one
> serving about 15 minutes before working out, and another about 15
> minutes after working out). I usually don't add protein on my rest
> day, unless I'm particularly tired or sore.
Why not? It's on rest days that the muscles are repairing/building?
>
> It's also worth knowing that I add 9g of glutamine (4.5g before, 4.5g
> after the workout), and until recently, 5g of creatine. I dropped the
> creatine with the hopes that I can re-load a couple of weeks before
> the event, and hopefully see a burst of improvement.
>
> Here are my actual questions:
>
> 1. If you've seen my routine posted in an earlier thread, I'm
> wondering if 100g of protein is enough?
Nope, increase it to 1gr/lb ot whatever Rob wrote.
> I haven't gained any
> additional belly, so I feel confident that it's being utilized well,
> but I do not know if I should add more with the current routine.
>
> 2. Since I'm currently trying to lose fat, I'm concerned about the
> additional 220 calories that I'm bringing in. Since I haven't LOST fat
> since I started lifting, I'm wondering if dropping the calories would
> help me to lose the fat?
>
> So, I guess the short question is, should I increase protein, decrease
> protein, or stay on course?
>
> TIA,
>
> Jason
--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill >> Stay informed about: Protein or Calories? |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Apr 02, 2007
Posts: 8
|
(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:52 am
Post subject: Re: Protein or Calories? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
>> 1. If you've seen my routine posted in an earlier thread, I'm
>> wondering if 100g of protein is enough? I haven't gained any
>> additional belly, so I feel confident that it's being utilized well,
>> but I do not know if I should add more with the current routine.
>
> 100 gr. is far too little protein. The min I would take in would be 1 gr/lb
> and that being whole proteins from meat, eggs, dairy etc. I generally don't
> even count the protein that I take in with carbs etc.
Are there actual studies on protein requirements of lifters, or is this
just 'gym wisdom'?
--
I have nothing at all against well-trained, knowledgeable Indian
technical support. I hope to speak to one before I retire. --JW, ASR >> Stay informed about: Protein or Calories? |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Apr 21, 2007
Posts: 9
|
(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Protein or Calories? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
> Do you know how many
> cals you are taking in? What is your % of fat-pro-carb? If anything, I would
> increase the protein and cut back in carbs and fats that are not helping
> you. I get 50 gr of protein from a single can of canned chicken breast, so
> it is not hard to get enough protein just from food. I'm not a big
> supplement guy as I enjoy eating protein, but I do use Whey if I am in a
> hurry or post workout. If you have not lost any fat so far, then I would cut
> the cals and possibly add light aerobic work post work out.
It's tough to say how many calories I bring in, honestly. I'm self-
employed, and 4-5 days out of the week I meet clients for lunch at a
restaurant. I try to restrict my meals to things that I recognize,
like chicken or turkey with a lot of lettuce (just because I like it),
but it's hard to know how the meals are made, or what seasonings go
into them.
My best guess is that I bring in an average of around 1700 calories a
day. It was more than that 6 months ago, but I've completely cut out
all sodas and junk food. I expected to lose fat after cutting those
out, but since the calories of the soda and chips amount to about the
same as what I'm bringing in with supplements, that depletion hasn't
had much of an impact except that I breath better.
Lunch is really unavoidable, but I think that I can probably make some
substantial cuts at supper time, though. Chicken tenderloins on a
George Foreman are quick, easy, and cheap, with very little fat and
carbs. Add that to some brown rice, and I should be able to add a
substantial amount of protein without adding too many calories.
I've never tried canned chicken, either (that I know of). I think
there's another thread going about high-protein recipes, so I'll
bounce over there and see if I can find something good to make with
it.
Last question. When you say 1g / 1lb of body weight, is that current
body weight, or the body weight you hope to achieve?
- Jason >> Stay informed about: Protein or Calories? |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Apr 26, 2007
Posts: 1
|
(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:09 pm
Post subject: Re: Protein or Calories? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
On Apr 25, 1:18 am, "Bully" <bull... DeleteThis @proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
> Innews:1177456097.107884.29820@u32g2000prd.googlegroups.com,
> Jason <jwcarl... DeleteThis @gmail.com> typed:
>
>
>
> > I posted earlier that I'm trying to lose about 4" of belly fat for the
> > next 8 weeks for an upcoming charity event, while keeping as much
> > muscle as possible. For now, my question is regarding protein
> > supplements, and how much I should be getting.
>
> > The protein I've been using is Body Fortress 100% whey protein (the
> > Wal-Mart kind), which is pretty much the only thing available locally.
> > A serving size offers 23g of protein, 110 calories (a little more than
> > the optimum 4 calories per gram of protein, but not much more), 2g of
> > carbs, 1g of sugar, and 55mg of sodium (this on surprised me, since
> > it's considerably more than a can of soda).
>
> > My daily diet brings in about 40-50g of protein (I eat a lot of
> > chicken), and I'm adding 2 servings of the Body Fortress protein (one
> > serving about 15 minutes before working out, and another about 15
> > minutes after working out). I usually don't add protein on my rest
> > day, unless I'm particularly tired or sore.
>
> Why not? It's on rest days that the muscles are repairing/building?
>
>
>
> > It's also worth knowing that I add 9g of glutamine (4.5g before, 4.5g
> > after the workout), and until recently, 5g of creatine. I dropped the
> > creatine with the hopes that I can re-load a couple of weeks before
> > the event, and hopefully see a burst of improvement.
>
> > Here are my actual questions:
>
> > 1. If you've seen my routine posted in an earlier thread, I'm
> > wondering if 100g of protein is enough?
>
> Nope, increase it to 1gr/lb ot whatever Rob wrote.
>
> > I haven't gained any
> > additional belly, so I feel confident that it's being utilized well,
> > but I do not know if I should add more with the current routine.
>
> > 2. Since I'm currently trying to lose fat, I'm concerned about the
> > additional 220 calories that I'm bringing in. Since I haven't LOST fat
> > since I started lifting, I'm wondering if dropping the calories would
> > help me to lose the fat?
>
> > So, I guess the short question is, should I increase protein, decrease
> > protein, or stay on course?
>
> > TIA,
>
> > Jason
>
> --
> Bully
> Protein bars:http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
>
> "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
> the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill
You really sound like a candidate for Lyle's Modified Protein Sparing
Modified Fast diet. It's all written up in his book: The Rapid
Fatloss Handbook.
Look at bodyrecomposition.com. >> Stay informed about: Protein or Calories? |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Nov 18, 2007
Posts: 53
|
(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Protein or Calories? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
Jason" <jwcarlton.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177563319.929892.148320@s33g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>> Do you know how many
>> cals you are taking in? What is your % of fat-pro-carb? If anything, I
>> would
>> increase the protein and cut back in carbs and fats that are not helping
>> you. I get 50 gr of protein from a single can of canned chicken breast,
>> so
>> it is not hard to get enough protein just from food. I'm not a big
>> supplement guy as I enjoy eating protein, but I do use Whey if I am in a
>> hurry or post workout. If you have not lost any fat so far, then I would
>> cut
>> the cals and possibly add light aerobic work post work out.
>
> It's tough to say how many calories I bring in, honestly. I'm self-
> employed, and 4-5 days out of the week I meet clients for lunch at a
> restaurant. I try to restrict my meals to things that I recognize,
> like chicken or turkey with a lot of lettuce (just because I like it),
> but it's hard to know how the meals are made, or what seasonings go
> into them.
>
> My best guess is that I bring in an average of around 1700 calories a
> day. It was more than that 6 months ago, but I've completely cut out
> all sodas and junk food. I expected to lose fat after cutting those
> out, but since the calories of the soda and chips amount to about the
> same as what I'm bringing in with supplements, that depletion hasn't
> had much of an impact except that I breath better.
>
> Lunch is really unavoidable, but I think that I can probably make some
> substantial cuts at supper time, though. Chicken tenderloins on a
> George Foreman are quick, easy, and cheap, with very little fat and
> carbs. Add that to some brown rice, and I should be able to add a
> substantial amount of protein without adding too many calories.
>
> I've never tried canned chicken, either (that I know of). I think
> there's another thread going about high-protein recipes, so I'll
> bounce over there and see if I can find something good to make with
> it.
>
> Last question. When you say 1g / 1lb of body weight, is that current
> body weight, or the body weight you hope to achieve?
>
> - Jason
>
I consider it your bodyweight now and even then, 1 gr/lb may be light. I
know what it is like to eat out and I know that unless you are really
willing to make a commitment, it does not matter who you eat with nor how
many times you eat, you will not meet your goals. We all think what we are
doing is odd, but it is a health choice and if the people whom you are doing
business with can't understand that, how important are they really?
--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche
http://www.hardbopdrums.com/ >> Stay informed about: Protein or Calories? |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Nov 02, 2006
Posts: 377
|
(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:46 pm
Post subject: Re: Protein or Calories? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
In article <StSYh.54$cb7.27@newsfe12.lga>,
"ATP*" <waxwingslain.RemoveThis@azurepane.com> wrote:
> > Oh! You meant the WHOLE canned chickens! Sorry!
> > I'd forgotten about those.  I thought that someone was referring to
> > the small cans of just meat, like cans of tuna.
> >
> That's what I meant, the rest was just rambling. On a per pound of chicken
> basis it may be a bit pricey, but I get two meals out of a can and they're a
> couple bucks apiece or thereabouts.
Tuna is cheaper... 
How large are the cans you are getting for that price?
I generally just cook extra meat/food on weekends and consume leftovers
during most of the work week. Some of that depends too on what comes on
sale.
--
Peace, Om
Remove _ to validate e-mails.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson >> Stay informed about: Protein or Calories? |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Jan 18, 2005
Posts: 272
|
(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:04 pm
Post subject: Re: Protein or Calories? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:28:44 -0400, "ATP*" <waxwingslain.RemoveThis@azurepane.com> wrote:
>.... BTW, an 8 or 9 inch sudoko knife is great
>for slicing up chicken or turkey.
Plus, they are great for fileting people who get too obsessed with sudoku. >> Stay informed about: Protein or Calories? |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
|
FAQ
Search
Profile
Private Messages
Log in/Register/Password
