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Dnia 2007-01-29 Bully napisa³(a):
> In news:eplpo0$6ev$1@inews.gazeta.pl,
> Andrzej Rosa <bakters RemoveThis @yahoo.com> typed:
>> Dnia 2007-01-29 DZ napisa³(a):
>>> Andrzej Rosa <bakters RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Dnia 2007-01-29 DZ napisa³(a):
>>>>> "Stop being slim" makes it sound like gaining fat is a necessity.
>>>>
>>>> It's not exactly a necessity, but it helps. People may argue about
>>>> the percent of bodyfat where "things start to happen" but the
>>>> general
>>>> idea seems to be quite solid.
>>>>
>>>>> Not so. I've gained a lot of muscle over the years of training,
>>>>> always being about 7% bf.
>>>>
>>>> Would it take the same amount of time if you maintained 15% bodyfat?
>>>> How about 5%?
>>>
>>> Of course the amount of time to gain the same amount of muscle would
>>> be longer for a slimmer version of the same person. But not so
>>> considerably longer that shoving up the food should be a must
>>> (esp. for someone who doesn't enjoy eating a lot).
>>
>> He's 80 lbs.
>
> 134 lbs!

Again. I misread something twice yesterday, but I had a fever and it's
still light for a man. As an excuse, I've no idea what is 9 stones and
two woodpiles or 5 feet and three knuckles, so I bag to be excused.

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Dnia 2007-01-29 DZ napisa³(a):
> Andrzej Rosa <bakters.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Dnia 2007-01-29 DZ napisa³(a):
>>> My point is - if bulking/cutting sounds too discouraging (as it would
>>> certainly be for me) - then don't do it.
>>
>> I didn't tell him to cut. I told him to fat up and stay there. After
>> a year or two of training, cutting may make some sense. He's really
>> light and he needs more body.
>
> Cutting is never a problem for slim guys like us!

You know what? When I built some muscles on me, it didn't look like
such a big deal even for genetically pudgy guy like me.

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Dnia 2007-01-30 Steve Freides napisa³(a):
> "Andrzej Rosa" <bakters.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:eplpo0$6ev$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
>> Dnia 2007-01-29 DZ napisa³(a):
>>> Andrzej Rosa <bakters.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Dnia 2007-01-29 DZ napisa³(a):
>>>>> "Stop being slim" makes it sound like gaining fat is a necessity.
>>>>
>>>> It's not exactly a necessity, but it helps. People may argue about
>>>> the
>>>> percent of bodyfat where "things start to happen" but the general
>>>> idea seems to be quite solid.
>>>>
>>>>> Not so. I've gained a lot of muscle over the years of training,
>>>>> always being about 7% bf.
>>>>
>>>> Would it take the same amount of time if you maintained 15% bodyfat?
>>>> How about 5%?
>>>
>>> Of course the amount of time to gain the same amount of muscle would
>>> be longer for a slimmer version of the same person. But not so
>>> considerably longer that shoving up the food should be a must
>>> (esp. for someone who doesn't enjoy eating a lot).
>>
>> He's 80 lbs. I'm afraid that he'll have to shove up some.
>
> One stone is equal to 14 lbs.

European or African stone?

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In news:3cetr2d1gu9c1kf1kll0tr439dttk92obg@4ax.com,
Joe Humble <joehumble.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> typed:
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:57:27 -0000, "Bully"
> <bully19.DeleteThis@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>
>
>> Trust your trainer?
>
> Joking, I hope.

Do you know his trainer?

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the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill
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"Andrzej Rosa" <bakters.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Dnia 2007-01-29 *Darren* napisa³(a):
>> Hi
>>
>> I have just joined a gym for first time in my life.
>>
>> I am male, 21, 5ft 7 and underweight at just 9 stone 8lbs.
>
> Weights are good, but you need to eat.
>
>> I am "slim".
>
> If you want to get serious about getting bigger, stop being "slim".
> Gain some fat and keep it there for a while. This and weight training
> should let you gain some muscles. Make a mark on your belt which you
> can still tolerate, and fat up till you fill your belt. Then simply
> stay there and lift.

Well, since I have been working in an office for the last 7 months, I have
actually put on 8lbs. I suggest this is to do with me no longer walking
everyday [since i now drive] and also eating a lot of rubbish food.

Everyone on here says eat more, but people in my life already think i eat
loads, so do i.

Maybe i am eating the wrong foods. What should I eat??

>> I have been advised that my best bet for increasing size is to use the
>> weights and then use something like swimming for my general fitness.
>> My trainer has told me to go 12 repetitions on about 6 diff weight
>> machines
>> which work out my arms, shoulders, chest & legs.
>
> Do something for your back too. Some sort of row, preferably.

Yes I will row too....

> You should see good results within a month, I think.
> You mean, besides eating? Check your hormones. You seem to be very
> light, even if you are a woman.


I am male :-p
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Dnia 2007-01-30 *Darren* napisa³(a):
>
> "Andrzej Rosa" <bakters DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:eplepu$h0l$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
>> Dnia 2007-01-29 *Darren* napisa³(a):
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I have just joined a gym for first time in my life.
>>>
>>> I am male, 21, 5ft 7 and underweight at just 9 stone 8lbs.
>>
>> Weights are good, but you need to eat.
>>
>>> I am "slim".
>>
>> If you want to get serious about getting bigger, stop being "slim".
>> Gain some fat and keep it there for a while. This and weight training
>> should let you gain some muscles. Make a mark on your belt which you
>> can still tolerate, and fat up till you fill your belt. Then simply
>> stay there and lift.
>
> Well, since I have been working in an office for the last 7 months, I have
> actually put on 8lbs. I suggest this is to do with me no longer walking
> everyday [since i now drive] and also eating a lot of rubbish food.
>
> Everyone on here says eat more, but people in my life already think i eat
> loads, so do i.

So what? If you aren't gaining body mass, you are at your balance. No
matter how many calories *you* need to maintain your body.

> Maybe i am eating the wrong foods. What should I eat??

To be honest, I think that you need to eat the "wrong foods". Just try
to control where it gets you. If you start going too far into
skinny-fat land, decrease junk and switch to cleaner eating (lean meat,
lots of raw veggies, no sweets). However, until you start gaining mass,
don't do it. I say that you should try to slowly fatten up (as opposed
to doing it fast). Skinny guys often have good potential for muscle
gains, but equally often they fail to capitalize on it, because they
aren't willing to eat as much as they need to grow well.

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In news:epmnh1$c3c$1@inews.gazeta.pl,
Andrzej Rosa <bakters.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> typed:
> Dnia 2007-01-29 Bully napisa³(a):
>> In news:eplpo0$6ev$1@inews.gazeta.pl,
>> Andrzej Rosa <bakters.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> typed:
>>> Dnia 2007-01-29 DZ napisa³(a):
>>>> Andrzej Rosa <bakters.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> Dnia 2007-01-29 DZ napisa³(a):
>>>>>> "Stop being slim" makes it sound like gaining fat is a necessity.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not exactly a necessity, but it helps. People may argue
>>>>> about the percent of bodyfat where "things start to happen" but
>>>>> the general
>>>>> idea seems to be quite solid.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not so. I've gained a lot of muscle over the years of training,
>>>>>> always being about 7% bf.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it take the same amount of time if you maintained 15%
>>>>> bodyfat? How about 5%?
>>>>
>>>> Of course the amount of time to gain the same amount of muscle
>>>> would be longer for a slimmer version of the same person. But not
>>>> so considerably longer that shoving up the food should be a must
>>>> (esp. for someone who doesn't enjoy eating a lot).
>>>
>>> He's 80 lbs.
>>
>> 134 lbs!
>
> Again. I misread something twice yesterday, but I had a fever and
> it's still light for a man. As an excuse, I've no idea what is 9
> stones and two woodpiles or 5 feet and three knuckles, so I bag to be
> excused.

You're bagged; I mean excused !

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