Milk and fat loss

Well_I_Wonder wrote:
> Two different questions but maybe linked..
>
> Is it good to have milk as part of your diet? Does it contain too
> much fat? Even semi-skimmed? I'm drinking at least a pint of
> semi-skimmed a day.

Milk is good unless you have some medical issue with it (intolerance). You
don't. If you're really worried about it having too many calories you can
always go for skimmed milk.

> Also I'm a skinny guy (6'2" 75kg) but with a big pot belly, I'm
> making good improvement with the amount I can lift and I'm generally
> looking more muscular, however my stomach is as big if not bigger
> than ever. Does this indicate too much fat in my diet or is it just
> something I have to put up with until I've put a good bit of muscle
> on. Although more defined I'm still pretty skinny elsewhere.

Fat in diet doesn't mean much. Except that too little fat in your diet means
problems: some fatty stuff is required for your body to work properly, use
google. Fish oils, that sort of thing. And too little fat is associated with
low testosterone levels. On the other hand trans-fats (mainly found in
processed food, look at labels) are probably not good news.

> I think my diet is generally good, 5 meals a day, apart from the milk
> and the odd bit of butter I can't think where else I get much fat
> from.

So you probably should put some olive oil, oily fish or nuts or that sort of
thing in your diet. You should know this by now having used google...

If you want to lose weight, you need to cut your calories overall. Which
means eat less, particularly carbs (you're probably eating a lot of sugary /
starchy stuff). That will make your belly get smaller. Cutting all the fat
out of your diet will not, it'll just make you unhealthy. But you're my
weight, I'm three inches shorter than you, and I am not exactly muscular. So
you might want to learn to squat and deadlift and do that for a bit before
you think about losing your belly (you'll find it hard to put on muscle and
lose your belly at the same time, do one then the other).

Peter
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"Peter Allen" <peteronusenet.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Well_I_Wonder wrote:
>> Two different questions but maybe linked..
>>
>> Is it good to have milk as part of your diet? Does it contain too
>> much fat? Even semi-skimmed? I'm drinking at least a pint of
>> semi-skimmed a day.
>
> Milk is good unless you have some medical issue with it (intolerance). You
> don't. If you're really worried about it having too many calories you can
> always go for skimmed milk.
>
>> Also I'm a skinny guy (6'2" 75kg) but with a big pot belly, I'm
>> making good improvement with the amount I can lift and I'm generally
>> looking more muscular, however my stomach is as big if not bigger
>> than ever. Does this indicate too much fat in my diet or is it just
>> something I have to put up with until I've put a good bit of muscle
>> on. Although more defined I'm still pretty skinny elsewhere.
>
> Fat in diet doesn't mean much. Except that too little fat in your diet
> means
> problems: some fatty stuff is required for your body to work properly, use
> google. Fish oils, that sort of thing. And too little fat is associated
> with
> low testosterone levels. On the other hand trans-fats (mainly found in
> processed food, look at labels) are probably not good news.
>
>> I think my diet is generally good, 5 meals a day, apart from the milk
>> and the odd bit of butter I can't think where else I get much fat
>> from.
>
> So you probably should put some olive oil, oily fish or nuts or that sort
> of
> thing in your diet. You should know this by now having used google...
>
> If you want to lose weight, you need to cut your calories overall. Which
> means eat less, particularly carbs (you're probably eating a lot of sugary
> /
> starchy stuff). That will make your belly get smaller. Cutting all the fat
> out of your diet will not, it'll just make you unhealthy. But you're my
> weight, I'm three inches shorter than you, and I am not exactly muscular.
> So
> you might want to learn to squat and deadlift and do that for a bit before
> you think about losing your belly (you'll find it hard to put on muscle
> and
> lose your belly at the same time, do one then the other).
>
> Peter
>
>

Hi,

Thanks both, PV I do a bit of cycling rather than running, more short bursts
up hills than long calorie burning runs though, don't know if this helps but
it seems to be strengthening my legs at least.

Peter, I eat almonds and pine nuts several times a week, I also eat quite a
lot of tuna, does that count as oily fish?

Up until now I was concentrating on bench presses, flys, rows, curls etc to
improve the look of my upper body and arms. Recently I just started doing
both squats and deadlifts, which I find really satisfying as I can feel them
working almost my entire body, though my thighs are aching a lot at from
them, is that normal?!

Thanks!

W.
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Well_I_Wonder wrote:
> "Peter Allen" <peteronusenet.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:dfq3qt$su4$1@domitilla.aioe.org...
>> Well_I_Wonder wrote:
>>> Two different questions but maybe linked..
>>>
>>> Is it good to have milk as part of your diet? Does it contain too
>>> much fat? Even semi-skimmed? I'm drinking at least a pint of
>>> semi-skimmed a day.
>>
>> Milk is good unless you have some medical issue with it
>> (intolerance). You don't. If you're really worried about it having
>> too many calories you can always go for skimmed milk.
>>
>>> Also I'm a skinny guy (6'2" 75kg) but with a big pot belly, I'm
>>> making good improvement with the amount I can lift and I'm generally
>>> looking more muscular, however my stomach is as big if not bigger
>>> than ever. Does this indicate too much fat in my diet or is it just
>>> something I have to put up with until I've put a good bit of muscle
>>> on. Although more defined I'm still pretty skinny elsewhere.
>>
>> Fat in diet doesn't mean much. Except that too little fat in your
>> diet means
>> problems: some fatty stuff is required for your body to work
>> properly, use google. Fish oils, that sort of thing. And too little
>> fat is associated with
>> low testosterone levels. On the other hand trans-fats (mainly found
>> in processed food, look at labels) are probably not good news.
>>
>>> I think my diet is generally good, 5 meals a day, apart from the
>>> milk and the odd bit of butter I can't think where else I get much
>>> fat from.
>>
>> So you probably should put some olive oil, oily fish or nuts or that
>> sort of
>> thing in your diet. You should know this by now having used google...
>>
>> If you want to lose weight, you need to cut your calories overall.
>> Which means eat less, particularly carbs (you're probably eating a
>> lot of sugary /
>> starchy stuff). That will make your belly get smaller. Cutting all
>> the fat out of your diet will not, it'll just make you unhealthy.
>> But you're my weight, I'm three inches shorter than you, and I am
>> not exactly muscular. So
>> you might want to learn to squat and deadlift and do that for a bit
>> before you think about losing your belly (you'll find it hard to put
>> on muscle and
>> lose your belly at the same time, do one then the other).
>
> Peter, I eat almonds and pine nuts several times a week, I also eat
> quite a lot of tuna, does that count as oily fish?

Tuna isn't really an oily fish, but if you eat a lot then it'll do (and it
depends what sort of tuna).

http://www.aafp.org/afp/20040701/133.html

might be worth looking at.

> Up until now I was concentrating on bench presses, flys, rows, curls
> etc to improve the look of my upper body and arms. Recently I just
> started doing both squats and deadlifts, which I find really
> satisfying as I can feel them working almost my entire body, though
> my thighs are aching a lot at from them, is that normal?!

Yes.

Peter
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Well_I_Wonder wrote:

> Two different questions but maybe linked..
>
> Is it good to have milk as part of your diet? Does it contain too much fat?
> Even semi-skimmed? I'm drinking at least a pint of semi-skimmed a day.

Skim milk has none.
>
> Also I'm a skinny guy (6'2" 75kg) but with a big pot belly, I'm making good
> improvement with the amount I can lift and I'm generally looking more
> muscular, however my stomach is as big if not bigger than ever. Does this
> indicate too much fat in my diet or is it just something I have to put up
> with until I've put a good bit of muscle on. Although more defined I'm still
> pretty skinny elsewhere.
>
> I think my diet is generally good, 5 meals a day, apart from the milk and
> the odd bit of butter I can't think where else I get much fat from.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> W.

What do you eat?
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Overall very good points.

Salmon is excellent. Nuts/seeds excellent. Rice is an exceptional
starch/grain, naturally "calorie limiting", an excellent protein, altho not
a very "dense" protein.

Tough call, tho: skinny w/ a pot belly, or EFA deficiency.... hmmmmmm.....


The clean/jerk (and variations thereof), and the squat are considered by
many to be among the single best whole body exercises one can do. They can
also burn a goodly amount of calories, esp. in tall people,due to the large
vertical lift.
----------------------------
Mr. P.V.'d
formerly Droll Troll
"Peter Allen" <peteronusenet.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Well_I_Wonder wrote:
>> "Peter Allen" <peteronusenet.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:dfq3qt$su4$1@domitilla.aioe.org...
>>> Well_I_Wonder wrote:
>>>> Two different questions but maybe linked..
>>>>
>>>> Is it good to have milk as part of your diet? Does it contain too
>>>> much fat? Even semi-skimmed? I'm drinking at least a pint of
>>>> semi-skimmed a day.
>>>
>>> Milk is good unless you have some medical issue with it
>>> (intolerance). You don't. If you're really worried about it having
>>> too many calories you can always go for skimmed milk.
>>>
>>>> Also I'm a skinny guy (6'2" 75kg) but with a big pot belly, I'm
>>>> making good improvement with the amount I can lift and I'm generally
>>>> looking more muscular, however my stomach is as big if not bigger
>>>> than ever. Does this indicate too much fat in my diet or is it just
>>>> something I have to put up with until I've put a good bit of muscle
>>>> on. Although more defined I'm still pretty skinny elsewhere.
>>>
>>> Fat in diet doesn't mean much. Except that too little fat in your
>>> diet means
>>> problems: some fatty stuff is required for your body to work
>>> properly, use google. Fish oils, that sort of thing. And too little
>>> fat is associated with
>>> low testosterone levels. On the other hand trans-fats (mainly found
>>> in processed food, look at labels) are probably not good news.
>>>
>>>> I think my diet is generally good, 5 meals a day, apart from the
>>>> milk and the odd bit of butter I can't think where else I get much
>>>> fat from.
>>>
>>> So you probably should put some olive oil, oily fish or nuts or that
>>> sort of
>>> thing in your diet. You should know this by now having used google...
>>>
>>> If you want to lose weight, you need to cut your calories overall.
>>> Which means eat less, particularly carbs (you're probably eating a
>>> lot of sugary /
>>> starchy stuff). That will make your belly get smaller. Cutting all
>>> the fat out of your diet will not, it'll just make you unhealthy.
>>> But you're my weight, I'm three inches shorter than you, and I am
>>> not exactly muscular. So
>>> you might want to learn to squat and deadlift and do that for a bit
>>> before you think about losing your belly (you'll find it hard to put
>>> on muscle and
>>> lose your belly at the same time, do one then the other).
>>
>> Peter, I eat almonds and pine nuts several times a week, I also eat
>> quite a lot of tuna, does that count as oily fish?
>
> Tuna isn't really an oily fish, but if you eat a lot then it'll do (and it
> depends what sort of tuna).
>
> http://www.aafp.org/afp/20040701/133.html
>
> might be worth looking at.
>
>> Up until now I was concentrating on bench presses, flys, rows, curls
>> etc to improve the look of my upper body and arms. Recently I just
>> started doing both squats and deadlifts, which I find really
>> satisfying as I can feel them working almost my entire body, though
>> my thighs are aching a lot at from them, is that normal?!
>
> Yes.
>
> Peter
>
>
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