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Since: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 550
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(Msg. 31) Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:04 pm
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 07:42:19 -0500, "ATP*"
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>"Charles" <jrh DeleteThis @msn.com> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 03:39:33 GMT, Joe Humble <joehumble DeleteThis @earthlink.net>
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>>>On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:49:21 -0500, "Steve Freides"
>>><steve DeleteThis @fridayscomputer.com> wrote:
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>>>>> What are lyle's credentials and why should I trust anything he says?
>>>>
>>>>He's smart enough to have stopped frequenting mfw - 'nuff said 'cause,
>>>>right there, he's smarter than all of us here.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Eh, if you enjoy the drama it is actually rather amusing.
>>
>> I entirely agree, but it is necessary to be fully involved in active
>> participation to fully appreciate this aspect.
>>
>>>Was he one
>>>of those types who took it WAY too personally?
>>
>> He was typically way over the top with his personal attacks, but took
>> great exception to all forms of retaliation. He was crude almost
>> beyond belief, particularly concerning 'porn' and masturbation. He has
>> some sort of fixation about monkeys, with whom he is morbidly
>> obsessed.
>>
>> McDonald has an arrogant unshakeable belief in his own ability, in a
>> whole range of endeavours and activities. However, this only helped to
>> illuminate his inherent insecurity.
>>
>> He dismissed violently others' 'modest' contributions on almost every
>> topic, but given that his raison d'être was pecuniary gain, this is
>> not really surprising as he wanted to be acknowledged as the resident
>> expert. He was particularly antagonistic to newcomers to the Group,
>> but then so were most of the then "regulars."
>>
>> Given that most people are probably much nicer in real life than their
>> on-line persona, McDonald was part of a group of people at MFW who met
>> up regularly in real life, and as a consequence enjoyed the popularity
>> and support of those people. However, even here he transgressed and
>> made a notable enemy.
>>
>> He has been running his own forum for some time now where, with his
>> faithful lieutenant, he is able to control input to his heart's
>> content, the better to take commercial advantage of his on-line
>> activities.
>
>And why shouldn't he?
No reason at all as far as I can see, unless you know something I
don't.
>This is what he currently does for a living, AFAIK.
I do believe it is and he is doing it correctly now, but he was busy
setting it all up while spamming at Usenet newsgroups, which is taboo
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:19 am
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:53 am
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Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
> Still reading abstracts from pubmed?
Nope. Full articles.
> Have a fukn clue as to what the studies were actually about?
Yes.
> Why did they
> pick glutamine, for example?
They noticed that glutamine deprivation led to reduction in intestinal
mucosa. They also noticed that neotrophils and other autoimmune cells
utilized a lot glutamine, in addition to glucose.
> Would you like to play a game, johnny, where you and me both read the study,
> and we compare notes?
Feel free to play all the games you wish. It's your nature. You'll
have to understand if I refuse to play along.
> you cain't provide
> the cites?
Find 'em yourself. I managed. >> Stay informed about: Lyle's books - anyone read? |
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:32 pm
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Posting on Akron's time again, or is this your 1/2 hour lunch, on your
laptop, on your phoneline?
Hmmmmm......
Hello, Akron? Did you know........
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Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message:
Absolutely Vote, but NOT for a Democrat or a Republican.
Ending Corruption in Congress is the *Single Best Way*
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The Solution is so simple--and inexpensive!
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Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
> Still reading abstracts from pubmed?
Nope. Full articles.
> Have a fukn clue as to what the studies were actually about?
Yes.
> Why did they
> pick glutamine, for example?
They noticed that glutamine deprivation led to reduction in intestinal
mucosa. They also noticed that neotrophils and other autoimmune cells
utilized a lot glutamine, in addition to glucose.
> Would you like to play a game, johnny, where you and me both read the
> study,
> and we compare notes?
Feel free to play all the games you wish. It's your nature. You'll
have to understand if I refuse to play along.
> you cain't provide
> the cites?
Find 'em yourself. I managed. >> Stay informed about: Lyle's books - anyone read? |
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:45 am
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:57 pm
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John Williams wrote:
[...]
> I'm challenging your credibility.
And what do you know of credibility?
> <snip> regurgitate some factoids you seem to recall from
> old textbooks that you might have read in a quest for
> degrees that you never received.
Uh huh.
> I don't question most people on their degrees, and I have
> never once (feel free to check Google) insulted a legitimate
> educational institution where someone obtained his/her degree.
No, you wouldn't insult a /legitimate/ (nice caveat and one which I'm
sure you'd take advantage of at the first opportunity) educational
institution, however you apparently would insult those individuals who
may have attended them as well as their attempts at improving
themselves.
Yes, "factoids you seem to recall from old textbooks that you might
have read in a quest for degrees you never received" would indicate
that much to me. Ymmv? Hnh!
And, yes, I didn't even have to Google.
> As to you, I question whether you have any degree
> whatsoever, despite your previous claims. As to the
> sources of your alleged decrees, I ask because that
> would leave me the option of checking on whether such
> a decree was ever awarded to you. You know that I might
> actually do that, and that's why you won't say.
Perhaps, however I say it's more likely he's seen your antics and has
had enough sense to apply them to the current situation.
No degree necessary.
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:22 pm
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:07 pm
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Shute <Shute RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:28:53 -0500, "Proctologically Violated©®"
><entropic3.14decay RemoveThis @optonline2.718.net> wrote:
>
>>Thank you for sharing some of the brunt.
>>I fear, tho, that jmw is indefatigable.
>
>He has ten years of experience harassing people online. I have never
>met anyone so obsessed with every detail of people's personal lives.
>He really creeps me out.
Then go away.
People like you and Kristofer Hogg think you can intimidate and "shout
down" your opposition until everyone decides that it's not worthwhile
to challenge what you say. But if everyone backs down, the frauds and
phonies remain unfettered in spreading their scams and stupidity.
That's why I don't back down.
Fortunately, it has been my experience in MFW that I don't need to do
that forever. Others eventually notice the questions I raise, and
they, too, begin to ask questions about the credibility of people like
you and Mr. Hogg. Have you noticed some of that happening lately? >> Stay informed about: Lyle's books - anyone read? |
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:06 pm
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Man, you got DAT right!!
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Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message:
Absolutely Vote, but NOT for a Democrat or a Republican.
Ending Corruption in Congress is the *Single Best Way*
to Materially Improve Your Family's Life.
The Solution is so simple--and inexpensive!
entropic3.14decay at optonline2.718 dot net; remove pi and e to reply--ie,
all d'numbuhs
"Curt" <curtjames DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> John Williams wrote:
> [...]
>
>> I'm challenging your credibility.
>
> And what do you know of credibility?
>
>> <snip> regurgitate some factoids you seem to recall from
>> old textbooks that you might have read in a quest for
>> degrees that you never received.
>
> Uh huh.
>
>> I don't question most people on their degrees, and I have
>> never once (feel free to check Google) insulted a legitimate
>> educational institution where someone obtained his/her degree.
>
> No, you wouldn't insult a /legitimate/ (nice caveat and one which I'm
> sure you'd take advantage of at the first opportunity) educational
> institution, however you apparently would insult those individuals who
> may have attended them as well as their attempts at improving
> themselves.
>
> Yes, "factoids you seem to recall from old textbooks that you might
> have read in a quest for degrees you never received" would indicate
> that much to me. Ymmv? Hnh!
>
> And, yes, I didn't even have to Google.
>
>> As to you, I question whether you have any degree
>> whatsoever, despite your previous claims. As to the
>> sources of your alleged decrees, I ask because that
>> would leave me the option of checking on whether such
>> a decree was ever awarded to you. You know that I might
>> actually do that, and that's why you won't say.
>
> Perhaps, however I say it's more likely he's seen your antics and has
> had enough sense to apply them to the current situation.
>
> No degree necessary.
>
> --
> Curt
>
> >> Stay informed about: Lyle's books - anyone read? |
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:31 pm
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"Proctologically Violated©®" <entropic3.14decay RemoveThis @optonline2.718.net>
wrote:
>>
>> As to you, I question whether you have any degree whatsoever, despite
>> your previous claims. As to the sources of your alleged decrees, I
>> ask because that would leave me the option of checking on whether such
>> a decree was ever awarded to you. You know that I might actually do
>> that, and that's why you won't say.
>
>What if, just what if, it's all as I say. Then what?
Let me verify it. What's the harm? If you actually have any of the
degrees you claim, I'll acknowledge that fact. By the same token, if
there is no record of you having a degree you previously claimed, I
will note the same. Just provide the name of the educational
institution and the year you received the degree.
If it's all as you say, what have you to lose? And wouldn't it be a
boost to your reputation if I had to admit that you possessed those
credentials? C'mon, Kris, take a chance! >> Stay informed about: Lyle's books - anyone read? |
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:02 pm
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John Williams wrote:
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> You're not the first person who has made threats
> about attacking my employment in order to silence
> me and prevent me from exposing lies the person
> has told in the past. However, it does become
> tiresome.
You become tiresome.
How's that saying go? Something like I thought you'd like to know! ;o)
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(Msg. 42) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:13 pm
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Charles wrote:
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> Is that similar to coercing another person to take part
> in an affray with the intention of videoing the action for
> public display?
That's all been explained neatly elsewhere in this newsgroup as simple
boasting on John Williams' part.
No harm, no foul.
> <snip> Does that give you the right to publish
> photographs of them, cruelly embellished by you,
> in order to try and make them look foolish?
If you refer to the jpegs he's created of me then I wouldn't
characterize them as "cruelly embellished" as much as humorous in
affect (or effect - WHERE'S SCHUH AND HIS 9000 VERBAL SAT SCORE WHEN YA
NEED HIM?) if not in design. ;o)
Again, no harm, no foul.
> As ye sow John Williams, so shall ye reap.
Karma, yes?
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:02 am
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On 19 Nov 2006 18:13:50 -0800, "Curt" <curtjames RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>Charles wrote:
>[...]
>
>> Is that similar to coercing another person to take part
>> in an affray with the intention of videoing the action for
>> public display?
>
>That's all been explained neatly elsewhere in this newsgroup as simple
>boasting on John Williams' part.
>
>No harm, no foul.
That would be fowl if I thought you were chickening out!! ;o)
>
>> <snip> Does that give you the right to publish
>> photographs of them, cruelly embellished by you,
>> in order to try and make them look foolish?
>
>If you refer to the jpegs he's created of me then I wouldn't
>characterize them as "cruelly embellished" as much as humorous in
>affect (or effect - WHERE'S SCHUH AND HIS 9000 VERBAL SAT SCORE WHEN YA
>NEED HIM?) if not in design. ;o)
>
>Again, no harm, no foul.
Let me assure you Curt old chum, that your by now long-term foe sees
none of the unpleasant stunts he pulls on you as good clean fun. He is
all malice aforethought and spite - trust me, I know these things! ;o)
>
>> As ye sow John Williams, so shall ye reap.
>
>Karma, yes?
Is that the same as enjoying the smell of one's own farts?
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(Msg. 45) Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:35 pm
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On 20 Nov 2006 03:38:37 -0800, "Curt" <curtjames.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>Charles wrote:
>
>> That would be fowl if I thought you were chickening out!! ;o)
>
>heh )
>
>Never did receive a phone number or address though I was invited to
>give a call and to stop by his home. Meh.
I can tell you his home address if you *really* want it, which I
suspect you don't *really*!! ;o)
>
>> Let me assure you Curt old chum, that your by now long-term foe sees
>> none of the unpleasant stunts he pulls on you as good clean fun. He is
>> all malice aforethought and spite - trust me, I know these things! ;o)
>
>I'll take your word on that, Charles. Still, I'm amused by the image in
>my mind's eye of him sitting in a teeny tiny toy car while spinning his
>wheels, gripping the steering wheel with white-knuckles intensity,
>while spitting on about his special brand of credibility. Physiology
>textbook on the passenger seat.
>
>SPIN YOUR WHEELS, EMMY! SPIN 'EM!
>
>Yes, it's Monday. Enjoy yours! ) I'm off to enjoy mine.
>
I've just got back from my workout, so Monday is fine now! ;o) >> Stay informed about: Lyle's books - anyone read? |
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