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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:51 pm
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Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of his
books. I'm not sure which one to start with though, he seems to have
several that touch on my goals of overall fat loss and muscle retention. As
a female who has been pretty diligent with diet and exercise for 6 months, I
seem to have hit a wall. The weight and fat came off pretty consistantly,
and then it just tapered off to a snail's pace. I still exercise 4 days a
week, and my calories are still below maintenance, but I'm at a plateau.

I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid Fatloss
Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or both of these, could
you shed some light on which one may be most applicable to me? I'm not
looking for a quick fix, I don't care if it takes a year to get where I want
to be. I'm looking for a program or method I can apply to my life that will
just enhance or maximize my results.

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"determined" <determined.RemoveThis@comcast.nest> wrote
> Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of his
> books. I'm not sure which one to start with though, he seems to have
> several that touch on my goals of overall fat loss and muscle retention.
> As a female who has been pretty diligent with diet and exercise for 6
> months, I seem to have hit a wall. The weight and fat came off pretty
> consistantly, and then it just tapered off to a snail's pace. I still
> exercise 4 days a week, and my calories are still below maintenance, but
> I'm at a plateau.
>
> I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid Fatloss
> Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or both of these,
> could you shed some light on which one may be most applicable to me? I'm
> not looking for a quick fix, I don't care if it takes a year to get where
> I want to be. I'm looking for a program or method I can apply to my life
> that will just enhance or maximize my results.

I've read 'em all. For me, Rapid Fat Loss Handbook (the PSMF diet book) was
an epiphany...greatly improving my health and simplifying the maintenance of
desired body weight. But, it sounds like you want a slower, more gradual
(for me, torturous) approach, so, "A Guide To Flexible Dieting" might be
more appropriate.

You could wander over to www.bodyrecomposition.com and read some of the
articles and browse around the forums go get a flavor of it all.

Don't tell Lyle the atheist Jew sent you, or he'll charge you double.

David

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On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:06:43 GMT, Joe Humble <joehumble RemoveThis @earthlink.net>
wrote:

>On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:51:20 -0800, "determined"
><determined RemoveThis @comcast.nest> wrote:
>
>>Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of his
>>books. I'm not sure which one to start with though, he seems to have
>>several that touch on my goals of overall fat loss and muscle retention. As
>>a female who has been pretty diligent with diet and exercise for 6 months, I
>>seem to have hit a wall. The weight and fat came off pretty consistantly,
>>and then it just tapered off to a snail's pace. I still exercise 4 days a
>>week, and my calories are still below maintenance, but I'm at a plateau.
>>
>>I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid Fatloss
>>Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or both of these, could
>>you shed some light on which one may be most applicable to me? I'm not
>>looking for a quick fix, I don't care if it takes a year to get where I want
>>to be. I'm looking for a program or method I can apply to my life that will
>>just enhance or maximize my results.
>>
>
>What are lyle's credentials and why should I trust anything he says?

And pay £21 ($39) for the privilege of receiving an Ebook, with no
printing, distribution or publishing costs.

Sounds something of a rip-off to me, particularly as the system has
been around since 1972 and all he's done is plagiarise and revamp it!

Ugh! It's Monday! ;o(
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:14 am
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determined wrote:
> Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of his
> books.

lyle managed to jump on the atkins-style diet bandwagon 3-4 (or, was is
5-6?) years after this type of dieting started to come back after the
WBF/DiPasquale debacle in 1992. opitimum training systems started
pushing dipasquale's "anabolic diet" in their follow-up to serious
growth/bulgarian burst called serious growth 3: big beyond belief.

didn't he start out at like 174 with a high bf% and get down somewhere
into the 150's? i can't remember what his first posts were like, but
it seemed something like that.

either way, he was/is just another guy with a library card who managed
to repackage a diet and sell it as his own.
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> "determined" <determined.RemoveThis@comcast.nest> wrote
>> Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of
>> his books. I'm not sure which one to start with though, he seems to have
>> several that touch on my goals of overall fat loss and muscle retention.
>> As a female who has been pretty diligent with diet and exercise for 6
>> months, I seem to have hit a wall. The weight and fat came off pretty
>> consistantly, and then it just tapered off to a snail's pace. I still
>> exercise 4 days a week, and my calories are still below maintenance, but
>> I'm at a plateau.
>>
>> I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid Fatloss
>> Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or both of these,
>> could you shed some light on which one may be most applicable to me? I'm
>> not looking for a quick fix, I don't care if it takes a year to get where
>> I want to be. I'm looking for a program or method I can apply to my life
>> that will just enhance or maximize my results.
>
> I've read 'em all. For me, Rapid Fat Loss Handbook (the PSMF diet book)
> was an epiphany...greatly improving my health and simplifying the
> maintenance of desired body weight. But, it sounds like you want a slower,
> more gradual (for me, torturous) approach, so, "A Guide To Flexible
> Dieting" might be more appropriate.

About 3 months ago, I would have definitely gone for the "rapid" approach.
But at this point, I'm settling more into the idea that this is a permanent
change in my way of life, that incorporates regular exercise and healthy
diet, forever. I'd like to improve my body composition as well, but my
chief goal now is fitness.
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<kcmunchkin.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> determined wrote:
>> Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of
>> his
>> books.
>
> lyle managed to jump on the atkins-style diet bandwagon 3-4 (or, was is
> 5-6?) years after this type of dieting started to come back after the
> WBF/DiPasquale debacle in 1992. opitimum training systems started
> pushing dipasquale's "anabolic diet" in their follow-up to serious
> growth/bulgarian burst called serious growth 3: big beyond belief.
>
> didn't he start out at like 174 with a high bf% and get down somewhere
> into the 150's? i can't remember what his first posts were like, but
> it seemed something like that.
>
> either way, he was/is just another guy with a library card who managed
> to repackage a diet and sell it as his own.
>

Unlike yourself, who doesn't have a library card and couldn't repackage a
Tonka toy.

Whatever you say about Lyle, he does do his research. So much, that he
reviews a research article every week on his e-mail weekly publication. And
he has read thousands of them as well. How many research reports have you
read?

And he fields questions from people as well. And answers them on weekly
newsletter. And his knowldge is such, that he is able to talk to the top
trainers in the country as an equal. They all know who he is. Does anybody
know who you are?
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:51 pm
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"determined" <determined.RemoveThis@comcast.nest> wrote
> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote >>
>> "determined" <determined.RemoveThis@comcast.nest> wrote
>>> Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of
>>> his books. I'm not sure which one to start with though, he seems to
>>> have several that touch on my goals of overall fat loss and muscle
>>> retention. As a female who has been pretty diligent with diet and
>>> exercise for 6 months, I seem to have hit a wall. The weight and fat
>>> came off pretty consistantly, and then it just tapered off to a snail's
>>> pace. I still exercise 4 days a week, and my calories are still below
>>> maintenance, but I'm at a plateau.
>>>
>>> I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid Fatloss
>>> Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or both of these,
>>> could you shed some light on which one may be most applicable to me?
>>> I'm not looking for a quick fix, I don't care if it takes a year to get
>>> where I want to be. I'm looking for a program or method I can apply to
>>> my life that will just enhance or maximize my results.
>>
>> I've read 'em all. For me, Rapid Fat Loss Handbook (the PSMF diet book)
>> was an epiphany...greatly improving my health and simplifying the
>> maintenance of desired body weight. But, it sounds like you want a
>> slower, more gradual (for me, torturous) approach, so, "A Guide To
>> Flexible Dieting" might be more appropriate.
>
> About 3 months ago, I would have definitely gone for the "rapid" approach.
> But at this point, I'm settling more into the idea that this is a
> permanent change in my way of life, that incorporates regular exercise and
> healthy diet, forever. I'd like to improve my body composition as well,
> but my chief goal now is fitness.

I have the same goal, but have figured out a way to do it that "works" for
me. I hate...no, HATE!!!!...maintenance or slightly below maintenance
eating. It is sheer torture for me. So, using periodic PSMF diets...as often
and for as long as necessary...I fluctuate between as lean as I want to be
and as fat as I'm willing to tolerate.

My diet on a PSMF is relatively healthy due to a shitload of supplements to
replace all the good stuff in carbs, and my diet off PSMF is as healthy as I
want it to be, with no specific caloric restrictions.

It works for me.

Your's, or anyone else's, results may vary.

David
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"Proctologically Violated©®" wrote:

> Money changes people. Smile

I'll pay you $5 to stop being a boring douchebag troll.

David
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"Steve Freides" <steve.RemoveThis@fridayscomputer.com> wrote
> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote >>
>> "determined" <determined.RemoveThis@comcast.nest> wrote
>>> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote >>
>>>> "determined" <determined.RemoveThis@comcast.nest> wrote
>>>>> Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of
>>>>> his books. I'm not sure which one to start with though, he seems to
>>>>> have several that touch on my goals of overall fat loss and muscle
>>>>> retention. As a female who has been pretty diligent with diet and
>>>>> exercise for 6 months, I seem to have hit a wall. The weight and fat
>>>>> came off pretty consistantly, and then it just tapered off to a
>>>>> snail's pace. I still exercise 4 days a week, and my calories are
>>>>> still below maintenance, but I'm at a plateau.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid
>>>>> Fatloss Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or both
>>>>> of these, could you shed some light on which one may be most
>>>>> applicable to me? I'm not looking for a quick fix, I don't care if it
>>>>> takes a year to get where I want to be. I'm looking for a program or
>>>>> method I can apply to my life that will just enhance or maximize my
>>>>> results.
>>>>
>>>> I've read 'em all. For me, Rapid Fat Loss Handbook (the PSMF diet book)
>>>> was an epiphany...greatly improving my health and simplifying the
>>>> maintenance of desired body weight. But, it sounds like you want a
>>>> slower, more gradual (for me, torturous) approach, so, "A Guide To
>>>> Flexible Dieting" might be more appropriate.
>>>
>>> About 3 months ago, I would have definitely gone for the "rapid"
>>> approach. But at this point, I'm settling more into the idea that this
>>> is a permanent change in my way of life, that incorporates regular
>>> exercise and healthy diet, forever. I'd like to improve my body
>>> composition as well, but my chief goal now is fitness.
>>
>> I have the same goal, but have figured out a way to do it that "works"
>> for me. I hate...no, HATE!!!!...maintenance or slightly below maintenance
>> eating. It is sheer torture for me. So, using periodic PSMF diets...as
>> often and for as long as necessary...I fluctuate between as lean as I
>> want to be and as fat as I'm willing to tolerate.
>>
>> My diet on a PSMF is relatively healthy due to a shitload of supplements
>> to replace all the good stuff in carbs, and my diet off PSMF is as
>> healthy as I want it to be, with no specific caloric restrictions.
>>
>> It works for me.
>>
>> Your's, or anyone else's, results may vary.
>
> I think there is a lot to be said for cyclic eating once you get to a
> basically healthy weight. Our bodies seem to like it, and at the very
> least, I think it prevents us from taking eating for granted.

I hadn't thought of that aspect before, but you are correct. Cyclic eating
certainly mimics our evolutionary patterns.

A nice broiled mastodon steak would taste good right now...

David
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On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:49:21 -0500, "Steve Freides"
<steve.TakeThisOut@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:

>"Joe Humble" <joehumble.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:51:20 -0800, "determined"
>> <determined.TakeThisOut@comcast.nest> wrote:
>>
>>>Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of
>>
>> What are lyle's credentials and why should I trust anything he says?
>
>He's smart enough to have stopped frequenting mfw - 'nuff said 'cause,
>right there, he's smarter than all of us here.
>

You make a good point.

I was smart enough to leave. Then I came back.

And now I do more than lurk ... I post sometimes. Which has got to be
a bad sign regarding my state of mental health.

Well ... at least I rarely post anything useful. There must be hope
for me yet.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:20 am
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In article <24-dncu6jZrKRcXYnZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d.TakeThisOut@comcast.com>,
"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:

> <kcmunchkin.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1163445291.942261.142450@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > determined wrote:
> >> Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of
> >> his
> >> books.
> >
> > lyle managed to jump on the atkins-style diet bandwagon 3-4 (or, was is
> > 5-6?) years after this type of dieting started to come back after the
> > WBF/DiPasquale debacle in 1992. opitimum training systems started
> > pushing dipasquale's "anabolic diet" in their follow-up to serious
> > growth/bulgarian burst called serious growth 3: big beyond belief.
> >
> > didn't he start out at like 174 with a high bf% and get down somewhere
> > into the 150's? i can't remember what his first posts were like, but
> > it seemed something like that.
> >
> > either way, he was/is just another guy with a library card who managed
> > to repackage a diet and sell it as his own.
> >
>
> Unlike yourself, who doesn't have a library card and couldn't repackage a
> Tonka toy.
>
> Whatever you say about Lyle, he does do his research. So much, that he
> reviews a research article every week on his e-mail weekly publication. And
> he has read thousands of them as well. How many research reports have you
> read?
>
> And he fields questions from people as well. And answers them on weekly
> newsletter. And his knowldge is such, that he is able to talk to the top
> trainers in the country as an equal. They all know who he is. Does anybody
> know who you are?
>
>
Like any good scientist Lyle builds on the works of others. That is what
science is all about. He gives full credit to the Bodyopus diet and uses
references in his book.

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:55 pm
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:20:30 -0600, Hobbes <khobman800 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <24-dncu6jZrKRcXYnZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d DeleteThis @comcast.com>,
> "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> <kcmunchkin DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1163445291.942261.142450@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > determined wrote:
>> >> Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of
>> >> his
>> >> books.
>> >
>> > lyle managed to jump on the atkins-style diet bandwagon 3-4 (or, was is
>> > 5-6?) years after this type of dieting started to come back after the
>> > WBF/DiPasquale debacle in 1992. opitimum training systems started
>> > pushing dipasquale's "anabolic diet" in their follow-up to serious
>> > growth/bulgarian burst called serious growth 3: big beyond belief.
>> >
>> > didn't he start out at like 174 with a high bf% and get down somewhere
>> > into the 150's? i can't remember what his first posts were like, but
>> > it seemed something like that.
>> >
>> > either way, he was/is just another guy with a library card who managed
>> > to repackage a diet and sell it as his own.
>> >
>>
>> Unlike yourself, who doesn't have a library card and couldn't repackage a
>> Tonka toy.
>>
>> Whatever you say about Lyle, he does do his research. So much, that he
>> reviews a research article every week on his e-mail weekly publication. And
>> he has read thousands of them as well. How many research reports have you
>> read?
>>
>> And he fields questions from people as well. And answers them on weekly
>> newsletter. And his knowldge is such, that he is able to talk to the top
>> trainers in the country as an equal. They all know who he is. Does anybody
>> know who you are?
>>
>>
>Like any good scientist Lyle builds on the works of others. That is what
>science is all about.

Newton stood on the shoulders of giants.

Lyle slithers into their ear canals and jabs at their eardrums with a BBQ fork.
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This, from the Great Contributor to Human Knowledge. goodgawd....
So I guess, from hereonin, you won't be reading any more of my posts, right?
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The Solution is so simple--and inexpensive!

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"Proctologically Violated©®" wrote:

> Money changes people. Smile

I'll pay you $5 to stop being a boring douchebag troll.

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I'll pay you $5 to stop pretending like you know a fukn thing about
evolution--or science.
There are numerous examples, evolutionary ones, to show that this is *not*
so, in the general case, but *might* be so in regional cases.
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>> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote >>
>>> "determined" <determined DeleteThis @comcast.nest> wrote
>>>> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote >>
>>>>> "determined" <determined DeleteThis @comcast.nest> wrote
>>>>>> Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one
>>>>>> of his books. I'm not sure which one to start with though, he seems
>>>>>> to have several that touch on my goals of overall fat loss and muscle
>>>>>> retention. As a female who has been pretty diligent with diet and
>>>>>> exercise for 6 months, I seem to have hit a wall. The weight and fat
>>>>>> came off pretty consistantly, and then it just tapered off to a
>>>>>> snail's pace. I still exercise 4 days a week, and my calories are
>>>>>> still below maintenance, but I'm at a plateau.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid
>>>>>> Fatloss Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or both
>>>>>> of these, could you shed some light on which one may be most
>>>>>> applicable to me? I'm not looking for a quick fix, I don't care if it
>>>>>> takes a year to get where I want to be. I'm looking for a program or
>>>>>> method I can apply to my life that will just enhance or maximize my
>>>>>> results.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've read 'em all. For me, Rapid Fat Loss Handbook (the PSMF diet
>>>>> book) was an epiphany...greatly improving my health and simplifying
>>>>> the maintenance of desired body weight. But, it sounds like you want a
>>>>> slower, more gradual (for me, torturous) approach, so, "A Guide To
>>>>> Flexible Dieting" might be more appropriate.
>>>>
>>>> About 3 months ago, I would have definitely gone for the "rapid"
>>>> approach. But at this point, I'm settling more into the idea that this
>>>> is a permanent change in my way of life, that incorporates regular
>>>> exercise and healthy diet, forever. I'd like to improve my body
>>>> composition as well, but my chief goal now is fitness.
>>>
>>> I have the same goal, but have figured out a way to do it that "works"
>>> for me. I hate...no, HATE!!!!...maintenance or slightly below
>>> maintenance eating. It is sheer torture for me. So, using periodic PSMF
>>> diets...as often and for as long as necessary...I fluctuate between as
>>> lean as I want to be and as fat as I'm willing to tolerate.
>>>
>>> My diet on a PSMF is relatively healthy due to a shitload of supplements
>>> to replace all the good stuff in carbs, and my diet off PSMF is as
>>> healthy as I want it to be, with no specific caloric restrictions.
>>>
>>> It works for me.
>>>
>>> Your's, or anyone else's, results may vary.
>>
>> I think there is a lot to be said for cyclic eating once you get to a
>> basically healthy weight. Our bodies seem to like it, and at the very
>> least, I think it prevents us from taking eating for granted.
>
> I hadn't thought of that aspect before, but you are correct. Cyclic eating
> certainly mimics our evolutionary patterns.
>
> A nice broiled mastodon steak would taste good right now...
>
> David
>
>
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