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Beach Runner

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:56 am
Post subject: Re: (Listen) Sports doping should be legal - and accepted [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Barry Bonds wrote:
> Pro-Wrestling isn't a sport... its entertainment. Bowling is a sport,
> and yes a bowler could benefit from steroids. I found out a few months
> back that Chess is a sport, and they do have a drug enforcement
> program. Many a time I have seen Chess players go balistic or start to
> shake.
>
> Barry
>
> Menark Telroni wrote:
> > There's no way to avoid the reality: this is the Drug Age of sports. There
> > is not one top-calibre athlete in any sport or discipline who does not in
> > all likelihood tweak their body using cocktails of legal, illegal and grey
> > area drugs.
> >
> > Whether it's track and field, cycling, hockey, baseball or pro-wrestling...
> > the winners are using drugs.
> >
> > Drugs are not going away, and they cannot be controlled. With biomeds and
> > nanotech, the very definition of what constitutes a "drug" will be
> > challenged. Instead of labouring under the pretense (or delusion) that
> > clean sports are possible with enough testing and regulation, the world
> > needs to face the hard fact: drug testing only confers an advantage onto
> > athletes who use undetectable drugs. It doesn't - and will never - stop
> > drug use.
> >
> > Drug-friendly competitions would be the easiest and fairest way to level
> > the playing field. If any competitor can use whatever substance he or she
> > wants, then there are no longer any possible unfair advantages as far as
> > drugs go.
> >
> > Sports authorities need to put the irrational taboo of drug use far behind
> > them. Technology will be changing sports in far more drastic ways than what
> > we see today. Soon, advancements in prosthetics will allow amputees to leap
> > higher and punch harder than mundane, unaugmented vanilla human beings.
> > When these cyborg athletes begin applying to compete against regular
> > humans, the drug Puritans will regret their actions in this time period.


There's more to it. The post about taking a drug for everything. With
every drug you pay a penalty of some kind. Usually, over time that
includes
the liver. Messing with steroids does potentially pay a long term
price in
testicular function, liver disorders and other problems.

That said the number of high school kids emulating stars in their use
of drugs
is out of control. That's a real problem with longer term consequences.

No one can tell me that regular steroid use does not increase the
possibility
of prostate problems, increased possibility of liver disorders, and
other problems.
Ignoring that won't make them go away.

As far as use of HGH, something that makes heads grow on adults has to
be
a bit bizarre. Certainly, during recovery and after injuries it makes
a lot of sense.
What are exactly the long term effects? Show me the long term
studies?

Every drug has a down side. The more they're are used, the larger the
downside.

It doesn't mean the hysteria of anti all drugs is justified either. The
anti-drug movement
takes away civil rights, and makes vast quantities of people
"criminals". We saw
the good prohibition did.

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Pete

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:34 pm
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"Beach Runner" <Bob4Health.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> schreef:

> There's more to it. The post about taking a drug for everything. With
> every drug you pay a penalty of some kind. Usually, over time that
> includes the liver. Messing with steroids does potentially pay a long
> term
> price in testicular function...

We figured out how to circumvent that decades ago...

> liver disorders and other problems.


We figured out how to circumvent that decades ago...

> No one can tell me that regular steroid use does not increase the
> possibility of prostate problems...

That depends.

> increased possibility of liver disorders, and
> other problems.

Like what?

> Ignoring that won't make them go away.

Ignoring that certain problems can be solved doesnt help either.

Scare tactics dont work. They never worked before.

> As far as use of HGH, something that makes heads grow on adults has to
> be a bit bizarre. Certainly, during recovery and after injuries it makes
> a lot of sense. What are exactly the long term effects? Show me the long
> term
> studies?

Please do.

> Every drug has a down side. The more they're are used, the larger the
> downside.

Possible.

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Pete

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