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Since: Mar 29, 2006 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:04 am
Post subject: Leg press machine for rehab? Good design? Archived from groups: misc>fitness>weights (more info?)
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Approximately 6 years ago I ruptured the anterior cruciate ligament in
my knee. I have managed to stabilize using cycling and weight training.
However, I fell about 2 foot onto it and it gave out causing pain, etc
etc. It feels pretty bad (still waiting for a diagnosis) and I think it
might be months before I can squat my own weight again. I was thus
thinking of building a hack squat/press machine, so that I could work
up from weights less than my body weight. I was going to build as they
seem soo expensive.
Which exercise would provide less stress for my knee? I have seen talk
of the hack squat producing more shear forces (think I should avoid
that!), is that the case?
Some machines like the
http://www.fitness-superstore.co.uk/__16_product_info_new3_asp2_5_prdI...62165_u
Show the backrest slightly curved at the lumber region, while others:
http://us.commercial.lifefitness.com/content.cfm/linearlegpress
http://www.gymworld.co.uk/prodpage.asp?ProdID=243 would appear to have
a flat back. Which is correct?
Do the same rules apply as in the squat, ie knees don't extend beyond
the toes? Is the ideal position/range of movement for the knee of
90degrees to 179? With the ankle calf angle staying as close to
90degrees as possible?
Many thanks for any help given
Pete >> Stay informed about: Leg press machine for rehab? Good design? |
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Since: Feb 18, 2006 Posts: 136
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:37 pm
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<petesouthwest.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Approximately 6 years ago I ruptured the anterior cruciate ligament in
> my knee. I have managed to stabilize using cycling and weight training.
> However, I fell about 2 foot onto it and it gave out causing pain, etc
> etc. It feels pretty bad (still waiting for a diagnosis) and I think it
> might be months before I can squat my own weight again. I was thus
> thinking of building a hack squat/press machine, so that I could work
> up from weights less than my body weight. I was going to build as they
> seem soo expensive.
>
> Which exercise would provide less stress for my knee? I have seen talk
> of the hack squat producing more shear forces (think I should avoid
> that!), is that the case?
>
> Some machines like the
> http://www.fitness-superstore.co.uk/__16_product_info_new3_asp2_5_prdI...62165_u
>
> Show the backrest slightly curved at the lumber region, while others:
> http://us.commercial.lifefitness.com/content.cfm/linearlegpress
> http://www.gymworld.co.uk/prodpage.asp?ProdID=243 would appear to have
> a flat back. Which is correct?
>
> Do the same rules apply as in the squat, ie knees don't extend beyond
> the toes? Is the ideal position/range of movement for the knee of
> 90degrees to 179? With the ankle calf angle staying as close to
> 90degrees as possible?
>
> Many thanks for any help given
>
No need to be so elaborate - how about something like this:
http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/03/28/84/13/0003288413636_215X215.jpg >> Stay informed about: Leg press machine for rehab? Good design? |
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Since: Jan 31, 2006 Posts: 253
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:14 am
Post subject: Re: Leg press machine for rehab? Good design? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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<petesouthwest.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Approximately 6 years ago I ruptured the anterior cruciate ligament in
> my knee. I have managed to stabilize using cycling and weight training.
> However, I fell about 2 foot onto it and it gave out causing pain, etc
> etc. It feels pretty bad (still waiting for a diagnosis) and I think it
> might be months before I can squat my own weight again. I was thus
> thinking of building a hack squat/press machine, so that I could work
> up from weights less than my body weight. I was going to build as they
> seem soo expensive.
>
Why would you have to use a machine to squat less than your body weight? >> Stay informed about: Leg press machine for rehab? Good design? |
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Since: Mar 29, 2006 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:14 am
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:58 am
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:57 am
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I'm not going to bother replying to each individual post as to many of
them are insulting.
Several points:
a) Why are people talking about doing squats, when my original posting
showed machines??
a) as some of these machines are at an angle of 45 degrees, I would be
pushing less than my body weight, that's simple physics.
b) It appears to me that many of the leg press machines available allow
you to sit and push away from the body thus NO body weight is used.
c) people who reply to postings without reading them, slagging of the
original post are ignorant twats with too much time on their hands.
d) Suggestions of exercising my injured leg by walking, dancing etc
show a complete lack of knowledge concerning rehab with a torn ACL.
e) Does anyone actually know the answers to my original post? >> Stay informed about: Leg press machine for rehab? Good design? |
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Since: Jun 15, 2005 Posts: 168
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:10 pm
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<farfunugen.RemoveThis@vw.org> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:14:38 -0500, "ATP*"
> <waxwingslain.RemoveThis@azurepane.com> wrote:
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> >Why would you have to use a machine to squat less than your body weight?
>
> Hey stupid, it is completely impossible to do a squat using less than
> your body weight.
Um, WRONG! >> Stay informed about: Leg press machine for rehab? Good design? |
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Since: Feb 07, 2005 Posts: 976
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:10 pm
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"Spammers_Should_Be_Shot" <NoSpam.RemoveThis@MyEmail.com> wrote in message
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> <farfunugen.RemoveThis@vw.org> wrote in message
> news:f5jm229i7ijb8hpfkfe2jamavl2d8pa50b@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:14:38 -0500, "ATP*"
>> <waxwingslain.RemoveThis@azurepane.com> wrote:
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>> >Why would you have to use a machine to squat less than your body weight?
>>
>> Hey stupid, it is completely impossible to do a squat using less than
>> your body weight.
>
>
> Um, WRONG!
Fucktard Bill wrong? Wow...wonders never cease... >> Stay informed about: Leg press machine for rehab? Good design? |
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Since: Jun 15, 2005 Posts: 168
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:12 pm
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<leenarose.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Pete,
> Instead of using hack squat or other machines you can do
> exercises such as walking, jogging, stair climbing, dancing, or lifting
> weights, for 45 to 60 minutes at least 4 days a week. Weight-bearing
> exercises stimulate new bone growth by working the muscles and bones
> against gravity. moreover yoga will be quiet beneficial.
>
>
> you can gather more information on knee problems from the link below;-
>
http://medical-health-care-information.com/encyclopedia/k/Knee-Problem...nd-Inju
>
WTF? Are you recommending cardio instead of weight training? And yoga? >> Stay informed about: Leg press machine for rehab? Good design? |
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Since: Mar 24, 2006 Posts: 162
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:18 pm
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:12:20 -0500, "Dr. Dickie"
<Dr_Dickie DeleteThis @chembench.com> wrote:
>Funny, when I squat I don't lift my feet or ankles, but if you do... hey.
You are still lifting your body weight, and short of lopping off an
arm or a leg, you can't squat less than your weight.
Dumbasses.. >> Stay informed about: Leg press machine for rehab? Good design? |
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Since: Mar 30, 2006 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:20 pm
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Since: Jan 31, 2006 Posts: 253
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:56 am
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<petesouthwest.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm not going to bother replying to each individual post as to many of
> them are insulting.
> Several points:
> a) Why are people talking about doing squats, when my original posting
> showed machines??
> a) as some of these machines are at an angle of 45 degrees, I would be
> pushing less than my body weight, that's simple physics.
> b) It appears to me that many of the leg press machines available allow
> you to sit and push away from the body thus NO body weight is used.
> c) people who reply to postings without reading them, slagging of the
> original post are ignorant twats with too much time on their hands.
> d) Suggestions of exercising my injured leg by walking, dancing etc
> show a complete lack of knowledge concerning rehab with a torn ACL.
> e) Does anyone actually know the answers to my original post?
The answer is you are a fooking idiot. Apparently you can not get out of a
chair without injury, yet you are looking for plans to fabricate a leg press
machine! >> Stay informed about: Leg press machine for rehab? Good design? |
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Since: Mar 29, 2006 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:24 am
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ROFL you really are a TWAT aren't you? It sounds like you have
possibly developed the ability to write without the ability to think.
How long do you think about something before replying? 2 seconds? Less?
It can't possibly be longer, surely? Unless you really as
sub-intelligent as your response suggested. How on earth you have
managed to work out how your computer works let alone the internet and
news groups is beyond me. Although the use of the word 'fabricate'
suggests at some time, somebody tried to educate you. So I guess maybe
you are just an ignorant, ill-manned, ill-bred twat. There should be
some legislation to stop people like you owning a computer. Can you
actually communicate an idea without being insulting? I guess to be
fair that might take too much effort, better to write ill-mannered,
rude, pointless answer. For anyone reading this who has use of a brain;
a) I don't intend to stay in a chair, so at some point I will want to
regain my leg strength. The best way of achieving that will be measured
progressive resistance training.
b) A mate who has helped me build other benches and pull down machines
will help me with the leg press machine.
So who is a 'fooking idiot'? hmmm let me think...... lol >> Stay informed about: Leg press machine for rehab? Good design? |
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Since: Mar 24, 2006 Posts: 162
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:44 am
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On 31 Mar 2006 03:24:52 -0800, petesouthwest.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com wrote:
>ROFL you really are a TWAT aren't you? It sounds like you have
>possibly developed the ability to write without the ability to think.
>How long do you think about something before replying? 2 seconds? Less?
>It can't possibly be longer, surely? Unless you really as
>sub-intelligent as your response suggested. How on earth you have
>managed to work out how your computer works let alone the internet and
>news groups is beyond me. Although the use of the word 'fabricate'
>suggests at some time, somebody tried to educate you. So I guess maybe
>you are just an ignorant, ill-manned, ill-bred twat. There should be
>some legislation to stop people like you owning a computer. Can you
>actually communicate an idea without being insulting? I guess to be
>fair that might take too much effort, better to write ill-mannered,
>rude, pointless answer. For anyone reading this who has use of a brain;
>
>a) I don't intend to stay in a chair, so at some point I will want to
>regain my leg strength. The best way of achieving that will be measured
>progressive resistance training.
>b) A mate who has helped me build other benches and pull down machines
>will help me with the leg press machine.
>
>So who is a 'fooking idiot'? hmmm let me think...... lol >> Stay informed about: Leg press machine for rehab? Good design? |
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Since: Jan 31, 2006 Posts: 253
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:10 am
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<petesouthwest DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> ROFL you really are a TWAT aren't you? It sounds like you have
> possibly developed the ability to write without the ability to think.
> How long do you think about something before replying? 2 seconds? Less?
> It can't possibly be longer, surely? Unless you really as
> sub-intelligent as your response suggested. How on earth you have
> managed to work out how your computer works let alone the internet and
> news groups is beyond me. Although the use of the word 'fabricate'
> suggests at some time, somebody tried to educate you. So I guess maybe
> you are just an ignorant, ill-manned, ill-bred twat. There should be
> some legislation to stop people like you owning a computer. Can you
> actually communicate an idea without being insulting? I guess to be
> fair that might take too much effort, better to write ill-mannered,
> rude, pointless answer. For anyone reading this who has use of a brain;
>
> a) I don't intend to stay in a chair, so at some point I will want to
> regain my leg strength. The best way of achieving that will be measured
> progressive resistance training.
> b) A mate who has helped me build other benches and pull down machines
> will help me with the leg press machine.
>
> So who is a 'fooking idiot'? hmmm let me think...... lol
Save your whining for your mate. While you're confined to that chair
munching on snacks and lashing out at the world, consider taking some sort
of remedial writing course. >> Stay informed about: Leg press machine for rehab? Good design? |
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