Increasing Metabolism by way of High Calorie Diet?

"455" <anonymous.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>" A high calorie diet is the next best way to increase metabolism.
>Consuming mass quantities of high calorie food will increase metabolic rate
>by up to 10 percent. On the contrary, a malnutritious (light) diet could
>lower your metabolism by 10 percent. "
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> I am 5'11'' 200lbs and trying to lose 15lbs of body fat through
> weight/cardio training and a clean diet. I "should" be consuming 3000
> calories a day, but have held between 1800-2000 for the past 3 weeks
> dropping 15lbs. If I consume the recommended 3000 a day for my
> weight/height, should I expect to lose body fact quicker? This statement
> is confusing to me.

Can anybody here say crock. You don't say where you got this.
>
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> If you want to get most out of your refeeds, you may wish to limit your
> fat intake and consume foods with a high glucose content (e.g., sugar)
> to substantially increase your leptin levels.

Yes, I did just that & ate lots of sweets & drank sugary drinks. It's easy
to pile on the calories on those things 'coz sugar doesn't really fill you
up like 'proper food' does.

I read about it online although the websites I found seemed to be geared
largely towards bodybuilders, I also read some stuff by Lyle McDonald, who
seems to be a bit of a guru on the subject.
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On 2 May 2005 21:07:58 GMT, Ignoramus760
<ignoramus760 RemoveThis @NOSPAM.760.invalid> wrote:

>On Mon, 2 May 2005 16:46:10 -0400, 455 <anonymous RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>> " A high calorie diet is the next best way to increase metabolism. Consuming
>> mass quantities of high calorie food will increase metabolic rate by up to
>> 10 percent. On the contrary, a malnutritious (light) diet could lower your
>> metabolism by 10 percent. "
>>
>> I am 5'11'' 200lbs and trying to lose 15lbs of body fat through
>> weight/cardio training and a clean diet. I "should" be consuming 3000
>> calories a day, but have held between 1800-2000 for the past 3 weeks
>> dropping 15lbs. If I consume the recommended 3000 a day for my
>> weight/height, should I expect to lose body fact quicker? This statement is
>> confusing to me.
>
>If you eat 20% more food, which increases your "metabolism" by 10%,
>would you gain weight or lose weight?
>
>Hint: that's a simple math question.
>
>The anwer is you would gain weight.
>
>Another problem: if you eat 20% less food, which reduces your
>metaboism by 10%, would you gain or lose weight?
>
>Answer: you would lose weight.
>
>So, the conclusion is, to lose weight, eat less. Slowed metabolism is
>a normal, and quite likely, adaptation to eating less that does not
>stop your weight loss, given adequate reduction in calories.
>
>I am also a 5'11" man, and I dropped weight nicely at 1900 cals per
>day. I maintain my current weight on 2,500 cals per day.

OK, but what if... you increased you calories by 20% every other day
(and reduced your calorie intake by 20% on the in-between days)?

Simple math would say that it balances out... but this isn't a math
question, it's a biology question.
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In article <3dnhsoF6q38g4U1.DeleteThis@individual.net>,
"455" <anonymous.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

> " A high calorie diet is the next best way to increase metabolism. Consuming
> mass quantities of high calorie food will increase metabolic rate by up to
> 10 percent. On the contrary, a malnutritious (light) diet could lower your
> metabolism by 10 percent. "

Yes, all those people out there getting thinner from the increase in BMR
by eating massive calories. Does that make sense to you?! Finding the
correct kcal intake is the trick BTW. There are formulas you can look up
of course, but that's only part of the battle.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/
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You can shift you calorein intake up whilst lowering body fat but you
have to accept some things...

1) you are only going to be able to burn a small amount off using
reasonably, sustainable amounts of exercise
2) you are going to have to manipulate you diet - not just the amounts
you are eating but what you ar eating and at what times.

ALSO

A calorie is not necessarily a calorie, and

Energy balance does not equal cals consumed VS cals burned in the
real world (if only it were that easy!)

Try to realise that a calorie from saturated fat is going effect the
body differently to a calorie from protein. A calorie is not a calorie!
Also, people react to increased calorie intake in different ways. Most
research suggests that there may be as much a 40% difference in
different peoples reactions to calorie manipulation. Energy balance
does not equal calin vs cals out! There are a few things that ring true
for most people though.....

You are going to have to fool your body into becoming more efficient at
using those extra calories and you are going to have to try to shift
the calories into support muscle metabolism and generally raising
metabolic rate.

You do this by eating many smalled meals, lots of protein, good
nutrient rich foods high in vitamins, minerals, good fats (omega 3 and
9 rich), phyto nutrients etc. Basically fruit, veg, oily fish, lean
meat, nuts and seeds etc. Also try to eat CARBS and FAT separately but
always eat protein with each meal.

There too much to go into here but there is a guy I think his name in
Berardi who is a PhD student and trainer to Olympic athletes. Look him
up on google.

Hope that helps.
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>> 1.4 Decreasing detection times: Increasing metabolism is probably the
>> most effective way to decrease the time period that drugs can be detected
>> in your system. Physical activity can increase your metabolic rate as
>> much as two thousand percent!
>
> Are you seriously trying to tell me that joe average can have a metabolic
> rate of 40.000 kcal a day (2000 * 20)?
> Top olympic-games-type of athletes (runners) burn about a max of
> 10.000-15.000kcal on the day of the competition.. how many high speed
> marathons can you run in a week?
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>>Nothing beats proper training taken to an extreme. A high calorie diet is
>>the next best way to increase metabolism. Consuming mass quantities of
>>high calorie food will increase metabolic rate by up to 10 percent. On the
>>contrary, a malnutritious (light) diet could lower your metabolism by 10
>>percent. Speed (the drug) will also increase metabolism. Unfortunately,
>>labs usually test for speed, and could get you into trouble. So exercise
>>with intensity, and eat big.

Honestly, the idea that the more you eat, the more you burn is unhelpful for
most of us with problems controlling our weight. Of course absolute
starvation dieting lowers metabolic rate, but the idea that what you need is
more calories per diem is nonsense. What works for most of us is what we
naturally do - calorie control 24/7, with the odd (monthly or less) planned
splurge or treat (NOT massive brownie pigout) which acts as a refeed.

I also think perceived stomach fullness is a biggie here, and hence the
importance of balancing foods at each meal, eating low-density foods etc.
IMHO, the longer your stomach FEELS empty, the more your metabolism drops.
Also IMHO, and no, i have no data, metabolsim drops with dehydration.
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In article <d64kg5$i6a$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>,
Jane Lumley <janelumley DeleteThis @btinternet.com> wrote:

>Honestly, the idea that the more you eat, the more you burn is unhelpful for
>most of us with problems controlling our weight. Of course absolute
>starvation dieting lowers metabolic rate, but the idea that what you need is
>more calories per diem is nonsense.

Agreed.

> What works for most of us is what we naturally do - calorie control
>24/7, with the odd (monthly or less) planned splurge or treat (NOT
>massive brownie pigout) which acts as a refeed.

That isn't exactly "natural". Also, the correct frequency of refeeds
depends on a number of factors, especially bodyfat percentage. The
lower it is, the more often you should refeed. See
bodyrecomposition.com for more details. (Hey, Lyle, I want that $1
back.)

>I also think perceived stomach fullness is a biggie here, and hence the
>importance of balancing foods at each meal, eating low-density foods etc.
>IMHO, the longer your stomach FEELS empty, the more your metabolism drops.

Not exactly.

Seth
--
"There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate" -- Will Brink
Except sushi rice, seaweed, and wasabi.
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