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ichoor0416

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:06 am
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I'd like to equip a home gym in a room about 16x15 ft. I'm starting
with a squat/power cage that I can also use for benchpress, incline
bench, and military press with an adjustable bench. The rack should
also have an upper crossbar so I can do chin-ups. If it has horns, I
can also use it to hold plates. After that, I'm thinking of getting a
knee raise/dipping station, combined leg extension and leg curl
machine, 45 degree hyper extension, 1/2 roman chair (basically an ab
board with half the board), cable rack, and dumbbells going from 20lbs
- 110lbs. I think it will be possible to fit all this in the room. If
possible, I would also like to put stations at either end of the cable
rack to hold maybe a pec deck and shoulder raise machine (where you
look like you're flapping your wings). What do you think of this setup?
I don't have much space, but do want to have the absolute necessities.
What brands are good? What retailers are good? Anybody make any great
mistakes that I can learn from? I live in New Jersey.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:47 am
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<ichoor0416 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I'd like to equip a home gym in a room about 16x15 ft. I'm starting
> with a squat/power cage that I can also use for benchpress, incline
> bench, and military press with an adjustable bench. The rack should
> also have an upper crossbar so I can do chin-ups. If it has horns, I
> can also use it to hold plates. After that, I'm thinking of getting a
> knee raise/dipping station, combined leg extension and leg curl
> machine, 45 degree hyper extension, 1/2 roman chair (basically an ab
> board with half the board), cable rack, and dumbbells going from 20lbs
> - 110lbs. I think it will be possible to fit all this in the room. If
> possible, I would also like to put stations at either end of the cable
> rack to hold maybe a pec deck and shoulder raise machine (where you
> look like you're flapping your wings). What do you think of this setup?
> I don't have much space, but do want to have the absolute necessities.
> What brands are good? What retailers are good? Anybody make any great
> mistakes that I can learn from? I live in New Jersey.
>

Sounds like you have a decent budget for this project. I'd forget the pec
deck and lateral raise machines and put the extra money into a top quality
power rack like this:
http://www.samsonequipment.com/111PHH.htm
(provided you have the ceiling height)

that's the centerpice of the whole gym. Add platform, bumper plates and
dedicated incline bench as money allows. Dumbells from 20-110 with rack is
very nice, too. Most of the cabley-pulley stuff is superfluous.

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Steve Freides

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:49 am
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<ichoor0416 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I'd like to equip a home gym ... What retailers are good? ... I live
> in New Jersey.

I like GymSource in northern NJ.
http://www.gymsource.com/locations_nj_param.html shows the one I use and
also the other locations in NJ. There's also OmniFitness but I found
the prices higher and the service not quite as good. Another outfit in
this neck of the woods is Bergen Home Fitness, 4 stores all in Bergen
Country (near NYC).

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:13 pm
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"Jim Ranieri" <nah,> wrote in message
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> <ichoor0416.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1111295206.480724.48320@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>> I'd like to equip a home gym in a room about 16x15 ft. I'm starting
>> with a squat/power cage that I can also use for benchpress, incline
>> bench, and military press with an adjustable bench. The rack should
>> also have an upper crossbar so I can do chin-ups. If it has horns, I
>> can also use it to hold plates. After that, I'm thinking of getting a
>> knee raise/dipping station, combined leg extension and leg curl
>> machine, 45 degree hyper extension, 1/2 roman chair (basically an ab
>> board with half the board), cable rack, and dumbbells going from
>> 20lbs
>> - 110lbs. I think it will be possible to fit all this in the room. If
>> possible, I would also like to put stations at either end of the
>> cable
>> rack to hold maybe a pec deck and shoulder raise machine (where you
>> look like you're flapping your wings). What do you think of this
>> setup?
>> I don't have much space, but do want to have the absolute
>> necessities.
>> What brands are good? What retailers are good? Anybody make any great
>> mistakes that I can learn from? I live in New Jersey.
>>
>
> Sounds like you have a decent budget for this project. I'd forget the
> pec
> deck and lateral raise machines and put the extra money into a top
> quality
> power rack like this:
> http://www.samsonequipment.com/111PHH.htm
> (provided you have the ceiling height)
>
> that's the centerpice of the whole gym. Add platform, bumper plates
> and
> dedicated incline bench as money allows. Dumbells from 20-110 with
> rack is
> very nice, too. Most of the cabley-pulley stuff is superfluous.

I think this is what they bought at my Y but it was pretty pricey, over
$1000 if memory serves.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:20 pm
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Thanks, that looks great! This type of rack was exactly what I was
looking for. I also like the idea of getting it factory direct. Too bad
they don't just have the prices on the darn website. I can see your
point about the cable setup, but there are a lot of stabilizing
exercises you just can't do without cables. For instance, there are a
whole set of exercises for rotator cuff that cables help with. also the
tricep pulldown exercises of that sort.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:10 pm
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<ichoor0416.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks, that looks great! This type of rack was exactly what I was
> looking for. I also like the idea of getting it factory direct. Too bad
> they don't just have the prices on the darn website. I can see your
> point about the cable setup, but there are a lot of stabilizing
> exercises you just can't do without cables. For instance, there are a
> whole set of exercises for rotator cuff that cables help with. also the
> tricep pulldown exercises of that sort.
>
I use that rack at my gym and like it a lot. The bar positions are
adjustable in very small increments, so it's easy to find the exact height
you need.
I know what you mean about RC exercises - they are convenient on a cable
machine. If you're a man of means, go for it. You can do a very good
facsimile lying on your side, doing a short-arc external rotation with a
light dumbell, though. But the triceps pushdowns are not really worthwhile
IMO.
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Lee Michaels

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:30 pm
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"Jim Ranieri" <nah,> wrote in message
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> <ichoor0416.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1111350031.206561.114750@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>> Thanks, that looks great! This type of rack was exactly what I was
>> looking for. I also like the idea of getting it factory direct. Too bad
>> they don't just have the prices on the darn website. I can see your
>> point about the cable setup, but there are a lot of stabilizing
>> exercises you just can't do without cables. For instance, there are a
>> whole set of exercises for rotator cuff that cables help with. also the
>> tricep pulldown exercises of that sort.
>>
> I use that rack at my gym and like it a lot. The bar positions are
> adjustable in very small increments, so it's easy to find the exact height
> you need.
> I know what you mean about RC exercises - they are convenient on a cable
> machine. If you're a man of means, go for it. You can do a very good
> facsimile lying on your side, doing a short-arc external rotation with a
> light dumbell, though. But the triceps pushdowns are not really worthwhile
> IMO.
>
>
Just a word on cable and pulley machines.

If you ever have to train women, weak people or do any kind of extensive
rehab work, these things are gold. Many of the big boys don't like or need
these kinds of movements. But as an individual who had to rehab from two
major auto accidents, I can't train without them.

And in terms of doing any kind of RC or "little back muscle" movements, a
good hi - lo pulley machine can be configured in many different ways.

And these machines can provide a lot more versatility in terms of the RC
movements. Much more so than dumbells. Because you can target different
ranges of movement and work different parts of the overall movement. Thus
creating much stronger muscles and stabilization effects.
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