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Tj

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:20 am
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thanks to anyone who helped with my last posting... much appreciated!!

anyway back to the matter in hand. I got a problem with my left side of my
body being smaller and weaker then my right! going from my shoulder, to my
upper lat, from my tricep to my left pec (mainly the outer lower part and a
little upper!) I always thought it was my tricep causing the problem from
being tight but after looking into it all the parts bar my shoulder have
been tight for a long while too... hence the lack of growth thus being
weaker then my right!

my mate (a sports therapist) said he thinks the main cause is in the upper
lat causing the knock-on effect especially with my pec! its a bummer as ive
got a wicked shape except for the difference & the left side always failing
first & needing a spot & I myself can notice the size difference when
looking in the mirror or wearing a vest Surprised(
I always do the same weight for eachside disregarding the problem so each
exercise is lead by my right sides strength (saying that I can do everything
and im jus as strong but left fails quicker that's all plus size
difference!)

My question is if I carry on getting my tight spots massaged & doing my
stretches will the size & strength come quickly & catch up with the
otherside or will I have to change my training? if I have to change could
anyone recommend anything? its been a problem for nearly 2yrs and the only
reason I left it was I thought I might sort itself out.... how wrong was
I!!!

all help and guidance will be much appreciated, I train hard & I train heavy
& would love to over come this obstacle!

tendy RemoveThis @becs.co.uk

22yrs old, 5ft 11, 91kg (trained over 5yrs but most ive trained
consecutively is 6months last yr)

bench -110kg
squat - 160k
deadlift - 150kg

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:22 pm
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Dnia 2007-03-28 Tj napisał(a):
> thanks to anyone who helped with my last posting... much appreciated!!
>
> anyway back to the matter in hand. I got a problem with my left side of my
> body being smaller and weaker then my right! going from my shoulder, to my
> upper lat, from my tricep to my left pec (mainly the outer lower part and a
> little upper!) I always thought it was my tricep causing the problem from
> being tight but after looking into it all the parts bar my shoulder have
> been tight for a long while too... hence the lack of growth thus being
> weaker then my right!

You should fix it. It can potentially grow into more serious problem,
which might keep you from training for some time.

> my mate (a sports therapist) said he thinks the main cause is in the upper
> lat causing the knock-on effect especially with my pec!

Check your range of motion on both sides. I bet that your left side
has smaller range of motion, which changes the grove in your exercises
which need it. Not good (but not very bad too; it's fixable).

> its a bummer as ive
> got a wicked shape except for the difference & the left side always failing
> first & needing a spot & I myself can notice the size difference when
> looking in the mirror or wearing a vest Surprised(
> I always do the same weight for eachside disregarding the problem so each
> exercise is lead by my right sides strength

It should be the other way around. Your weaker side should lead.

> (saying that I can do everything
> and im jus as strong but left fails quicker that's all plus size
> difference!)

And I bet there is a difference in grove too. This one is more
important.

> My question is if I carry on getting my tight spots massaged & doing my
> stretches will the size & strength come quickly & catch up with the
> otherside or will I have to change my training?

I'd say that you'll need to change your training. Your weaker side
isn't doing "the same" exercise, because you do them differently. They
become a bit different exercises, so they will develop your body
differently.

> if I have to change could
> anyone recommend anything? its been a problem for nearly 2yrs and the only
> reason I left it was I thought I might sort itself out.... how wrong was
> I!!!

Switch to dumbbells where it's possible. Do one-armed versions of
exercises, starting always with weaker side and repeating the
performance on your stronger side (don't worry about gains - your
stronger side will most probably remain stronger). Do the exercises
which somehow develop range of motion you are lacking.

Let's assume that you lay flat on your back, you reach with your
outstretched arms behind your head, and you notice that you cant put
your arms flat on the floor without effort. Your left side will
probably be worse than your right side. If this is the case, you need
to develop range of motion in you shoulders. Good exercise for that
would be a side-press and bent-press, or even a military press, if you
happen to be really bad in terms of flexibility. One armed overhead
squats are simply great for developing flexibility and stability of the
shoulder joint.

I have a bit similar problem to yours and I found that training both
arms at the same time doesn't fix it one bit. I somehow transfer the
load to whatever muscles like to take it, and instead of fixing I can
actually worsen it, so I made a conscious decision to stay with
one-armed versions of most of them, but I think that bilateral overhead
squats will work fine. Maybe jerks from behind the neck too.

> all help and guidance will be much appreciated, I train hard & I train heavy
> & would love to over come this obstacle!
>
> tendy.RemoveThis@becs.co.uk
>
> 22yrs old, 5ft 11, 91kg (trained over 5yrs but most ive trained
> consecutively is 6months last yr)
>
> bench -110kg
> squat - 160k
> deadlift - 150kg

Pretty good numbers, given your training age.

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Andrzej Rosa 1127R

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:20 pm
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My typical trainin wk consists of

Mon - chest & bi's
3x 4-6 benchpress
3x 6-8 incline dbpress
3x 6-8 incline press on smith
2x 10-15 incline flyes
2x 10-15 flyes
2x 6-8 barbell curl
2x 8-10 incline db curls
2x 10-12 standin hammer curls

Tues - legs & Calfs
4x 12-15 squats
4x 12-15 leg press
3x 10-12 leg extension
3x 10-12 seated leg curls
3x 20-30 donkey rasies
3x 20-30 standing rasies

Wed - REST

Thurs - back & bi's
3x 4-8 deadlifts
3x 6-8 bent over rows
3x 6-8 chip ups
2x 8-10 lat pulldown
2x 8-10 closegrip seated cable rows
2x 6-8 tricep dips
2x 8-10 skullcrushers
2x 10-12 tricep pressdown

Fri - shoulder & traps
(working on a training program for shoulders & traps aint got one yet)
usually seated press to front & back on smith
side laterals extremely light for reps to failure
dumbell press
rear delts on cable machine
upright rows
db shrugs

it looks a lot but it works for me for the exception of my problem....

tendy.TakeThisOut@becs.co.uk

> Also, the numbers you mention for the powerlifts, if they're your one-rep
> maximums, are low - focusing on improving your limit strength, at least
> for a few weeks or months, might be a nice change of pace for you if
> you've been doing relatively high reps until now. A good goal might be
> double bodyweight, in the squat, deadlift, or both, and 1.5 times
> bodyweight in the bench press.

p.s. in respects to what you wrote about the weight in my powerlifts being
low against my weight.. ive never done anything to findout my 1-repmax. the
numbers i posted are what i lift for around 3sets of 6-8 each except for the
squats which ive dropped dramaticly as i stopped trainin legs for ages due
to having a hard time findin bottoms that fit comfortably so now only do
light weight higher reps..
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:15 am
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"Tj" <tendy.RemoveThis@becs.co.uk> schreef:

> Mon - chest & bi's
> 3x 4-6 benchpress

> 3x 6-8 incline dbpress
> 3x 6-8 incline press on smith

Replace on of those by dips.

> 2x 10-15 incline flyes
> 2x 10-15 flyes

One flye really should be enough.

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