Help with deadlift

Hobbes <khobman800.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> writes:

> In article <1tGzi.146046$g86.109150@newsfe14.lga>, "JohnnyC" <j.RemoveThis@jc.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Is there a machine exercise -or combination of machine exercises-
>> that would give me the same benefit as doing the deadlift. I need
>> to build some strength and flexibility before I get back to
>> deadlifting, hence the machine question.
>>
>> Thanks for your time.
>>
>>
>
> Why not just deadlift - start with a lighter weight?

Alternatively if you are lacking the flexibility to do a full deadlift
you can always do partials deadlifts in a rack (some people call these
rack pulls). The idea being that instead of picking the weight up
from the ground you start with the weight a ways off the ground. You
can then work at lowering the starting point until you are on the
ground.

Jason
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On Aug 25, 3:38 am, "JohnnyC" <j... RemoveThis @jc.com> wrote:
> Is there a machine exercise -or combination of machine exercises- that would
> give me the same benefit as doing the deadlift.

Do hyperextension for lower back strength. You may not want to jump
into heavies when you aren't fully warmed up yet... It's scary for the
lumbars...

>I need to build some
> strength and flexibility before I get back to deadlifting, hence the machine
> question.
> .
> Thanks for your time.

-Vince
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"JohnnyC" <j.TakeThisOut@jc.com> wrote in message
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> Is there a machine exercise -or combination of machine exercises- that
> would give me the same benefit as doing the deadlift. I need to build
> some strength and flexibility before I get back to deadlifting, hence the
> machine question.
> .

If you have access to a trap bar you might find it's easier to maintain a
good back position than a conventional deadlift - not to mention easier on
your shins. And like Keith said, just start off lighter.

Trap bar pic:
http://www.defrancostraining.com/pics/images/pics/male-hs/pic_trap-bar.jpg
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"Jason Earl" <jearl DeleteThis @xmission.com> wrote in message
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> Hobbes <khobman800 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> In article <1tGzi.146046$g86.109150@newsfe14.lga>, "JohnnyC" <j DeleteThis @jc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a machine exercise -or combination of machine exercises-
>>> that would give me the same benefit as doing the deadlift. I need
>>> to build some strength and flexibility before I get back to
>>> deadlifting, hence the machine question.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your time.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Why not just deadlift - start with a lighter weight?
>
> Alternatively if you are lacking the flexibility to do a full deadlift
> you can always do partials deadlifts in a rack (some people call these
> rack pulls). The idea being that instead of picking the weight up
> from the ground you start with the weight a ways off the ground. You
> can then work at lowering the starting point until you are on the
> ground.
>
> Jason

The story goes - have no idea if it's actually true - that some of the
old-timers used to dig a hole in the ground and start deadlifting from
there, same idea as rack pulls except you're lowering your feet instead of
raising the bar. Over time, they'd put the dirt back into the hole a little
at a time until they were pulling from level ground.

-S-
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"JohnnyC" <j.TakeThisOut@jc.com> wrote in message
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> Is there a machine exercise -or combination of machine exercises- that
> would give me the same benefit as doing the deadlift. I need to build
> some strength and flexibility before I get back to deadlifting, hence the
> machine question.
> .
> Thanks for your time.

Although in this newsgroup my approach is considered unconventional, I have
consistently kept or improved my deadlift with a steady diet of heavy
kettlebell swings and/or snatches. (Of course, these also need to be worked
up to.) 15-20 minutes of short sets of kettlebell snatches on short rests
with a weight that's slightly under 1/2 my bodyweight does the trick for me.

I'm going to pull in a meet on September 8 and I think I've pulled exactly
once since the previous meet in March so I'll get a chance to test my theory
again. The one time I pulled, six weeks after the March meet, I set a clean
grip DL PR by 20 lbs. but didn't go for a new overall 1RM. E.g., today I
followed a one-minute on, one-minute off format and did 9 sets of 6L+6R
snatches with a 32 kg (70 lb.) bell at 69 kg (152 lbs.) bodyweight. I've
sometimes done :30 on and :30 off instead because it lets me get a bit more
total volume. If I'm feeling frisky, I may try to pull this weekend just
to get an idea what my attempts should be or I may just head into the meet
and figure it out during the warmups.

Just my opinion, your mileage may vary.

-S-
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On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:55:04 -0400, "Steve Freides" <steve.TakeThisOut@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:

>"Jason Earl" <jearl.TakeThisOut@xmission.com> wrote in message
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>> Hobbes <khobman800.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> writes:
>>
>>> In article <1tGzi.146046$g86.109150@newsfe14.lga>, "JohnnyC" <j.TakeThisOut@jc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there a machine exercise -or combination of machine exercises-
>>>> that would give me the same benefit as doing the deadlift. I need
>>>> to build some strength and flexibility before I get back to
>>>> deadlifting, hence the machine question.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why not just deadlift - start with a lighter weight?
>>
>> Alternatively if you are lacking the flexibility to do a full deadlift
>> you can always do partials deadlifts in a rack (some people call these
>> rack pulls). The idea being that instead of picking the weight up
>> from the ground you start with the weight a ways off the ground. You
>> can then work at lowering the starting point until you are on the
>> ground.
>>
>> Jason
>
>The story goes - have no idea if it's actually true - that some of the
>old-timers used to dig a hole in the ground and start deadlifting from
>there, same idea as rack pulls except you're lowering your feet instead of
>raising the bar.

I tried that. They don't let me in that gym anymore.
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