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(Msg. 46) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:57 am
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(Msg. 47) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:57 am
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"David Cohen" <sammiesdad.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Tom Phillips" <nospam777.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote
> > David Cohen wrote:
> >> "Tom Phillips" <nospam777.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote
> >> > David Cohen wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Of course. What the diet and running morons fail to understand is
that
> >> >> optimal levels of micronutrients, for optimal health and longevity,
> >> >> can
> >> >> not
> >> >> be achieved with just "a healthy diet". To do so would require tens
of
> >> >> thousands of calories a day, or impossibly enormous volumes of food.
> >> >>
> >> > gee, I wonder what the human race did before
> >> > the modern suppliment industry...?
> >>
> >> Die younger.
> >
> > Oh my, people died from a lack of twin labs?
> >
> > And you of course have proof of this ludicrous
> > assertion
>
> Everyone born before 1900, who did not use twin labs supplements, is dead.
> All of them. A coincidence? I think not.
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(Msg. 48) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:02 pm
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In article <e%E3e.13431$S46.5392@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"David Cohen" <sammiesdad RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <Omelet RemoveThis @brokenegz.com> wrote
> > "David Cohen" <sammiesdad RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> >> star... RemoveThis @rock.com wrote:
> >> > I take alot of vitamin and mineral supplements, but I'm on a budget
> >> and
> >> > need to stretch them out. What's the better choice, healthwise?
> >> >
> >> > A. Take a full dose of all supplements every other day.
> >> >
> >> > B. Take a half dose of all supplements every day.
> >>
> >> B.
> >>
> >> Due to the water soluble nutrients.
> >>
> >> And get a second job, to afford more supplements. What are you? Lazy?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > He could also just be over-spending...
> > Supplements are affordable even on a tight budget if you know how to
> > shop.
>
> This is true.
>
> Trying to set a good example for <<joni>>?
>
> David
>
>
<shrugs>
Whatever works...
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(Msg. 49) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:03 pm
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In article <424F29CC.8AA13DC0 RemoveThis @aol.com>,
Tom Phillips <nospam777 RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:
> David Cohen wrote:
> >
> > Of course. What the diet and running morons fail to understand is that
> > optimal levels of micronutrients, for optimal health and longevity, can not
> > be achieved with just "a healthy diet". To do so would require tens of
> > thousands of calories a day, or impossibly enormous volumes of food.
> >
>
> gee, I wonder what the human race did before
> the modern suppliment industry...?
They had a drastically reduced life expectancy...
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(Msg. 50) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:04 pm
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In article <424F2A70.4950DA6A.DeleteThis@aol.com>,
Tom Phillips <nospam777.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:
> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > Supplementing is pretty much madatory nowadays!
> > Especially if one is weight lifting.
>
> Yeah, don't forget that daily does of steroids...
Whatever...
You are obviously clueless!
I'm not even going to go there with you.
There is FAR more to weightlifting
and bodybuilding than drugs!!!
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(Msg. 51) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:05 pm
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In article <424F2B00.B3BB6638 RemoveThis @aol.com>,
Tom Phillips <nospam777 RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:
> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> >
> > In article <424EC9C6.8030306 RemoveThis @netscape.com>,
> > mjoann <xtcmusicfan RemoveThis @netscape.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Scorn B Woe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > T wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>Eat a normal diet and forego the supplements?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This guy is one of those dorks who thinks because you get colored
> > > > urine, that the vitamins don't do any good.
> > >
> > > Or maybe he knows that a nonnatural supplement is nowhere near as
> > > beneficial as it would be naturally occurring in the correct proportions
> > > in real food?
> > >
> > > mjoann
> > >
> >
> > While that may be true, in order to get the daily amount of even just
> > B-vitamins from your food, you'd have to eat an impossible amount of
> > food!
>
> And what "daily amount" is that? Whatever the government says?
<lol> The US-RDA governmental recommendations are more ignorant than you
are!
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(Msg. 52) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:09 pm
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In article <HkI3e.41$KL1.5@fe04.lga>, "Rene" <nospam RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote:
> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <Omelet RemoveThis @brokenegz.com> wrote in message
> news:Omelet-FC830C.14453302042005@corp.supernews.com...
> > In article <1112460244.666417.139280 RemoveThis @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
> > starved RemoveThis @rock.com wrote:
> >
> >> mjoann wrote:
> >> > Scorn B Woe wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > T wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >>Eat a normal diet and forego the supplements?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > This guy is one of those dorks who thinks because you get colored
> >> > > urine, that the vitamins don't do any good.
> >> >
> >> > Or maybe he knows that a nonnatural supplement is nowhere near as
> >> > beneficial as it would be naturally occurring in the correct
> >> proportions
> >> > in real food?
> >> >
> >> > mjoann
> >>
> >> I'm counting calories to lose weight. And it's working. Eating with a
> >> 500 calorie deficit per day, being 45 y/o, and exercising alot, (cardio
> >> and weights) it's difficult or impossible for me to meet my nutritional
> >> requirements through food alone. Hence the reason I'm taking
> >> supplements.
> >>
> >> For those who take the position that supplements are unnecessary,
> >> that's your prerogative. Maybe I'll take that debate up with you in
> >> another thread sometime in then future and learn something. But for now
> >> I plan on continuing to take them. So I'd like to hear from the "pro
> >> supplement" crowd and see if there's a simple answer to my question.
> >> Which choice is the better one, A or B? Thanks.
> >>
> >
> > I'd vote "B", but if you shop around for brands etc., you might find you
> > are overspending.
> >
> > I use a lot of "Now" brand. It's a generic brand but I and many others
> > have found it to be excellent. I use their minerals and as many of the
> > other additional supplements I can find as available.
> >
> > For the multi', "Solgar" was recommended to me by a doctor I know that
> > is heavily into nutrition and herbals.
> >
> > When I compared it to others, it was higher in B-complex than just about
> > any other multi'. I supplement minerals separately.
> >
> > Since B-vitamins are water soluble and are some of the more important
> > ones, that is one thing I look for when buying supplements.
> >
> > Have you looked on line for supplement purchases? You can save 25% to
> > 30% on name brands sometimes if you find the right company.
> > --
> > Om.
> >
> > "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack
> > Nicholson
>
> This is an excellent place to buy supplements inexpensively:
> http://www.puritans.com/
> Right now they have a buy 1 get 2 free sale and shipping is usually free
> when you spend enough ($50 maybe). Each month is a different sale. Most
> products are gluten free.
> As far as quality goes, they can hardly be beat also. Check out this site
> to see whether your supplement has what it says it has:
> http://www.consumerlabs.com/
> Puritan's Pride is always on the top 10 "good" list. It seems you just
> can't go wrong with them.
>
> (I am not affiliated with Puritan's Pride whatsoever.)
> René
>
>
Really!
Thanks! I have bookmarked that site for later perusal...
Heaven knows I can always use a source for good and less expensive
supplements! I often shop GNC on their discount days with my card.
I like "Isopure" Whey powder.
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(Msg. 53) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:10 pm
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In article <424F67CC.5915FA3B.TakeThisOut@aol.com>,
Tom Phillips <nospam777.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:
> David Cohen wrote:
> >
> > "Tom Phillips" <nospam777.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote
> > > David Cohen wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Of course. What the diet and running morons fail to understand is that
> > >> optimal levels of micronutrients, for optimal health and longevity, can
> > >> not
> > >> be achieved with just "a healthy diet". To do so would require tens of
> > >> thousands of calories a day, or impossibly enormous volumes of food.
> > >>
> > > gee, I wonder what the human race did before
> > > the modern suppliment industry...?
> >
> > Die younger.
>
> Oh my, people died from a lack of twin labs?
>
> And you of course have proof of this ludicrous
> assertion
Look at the increase in lifespans over time....
I think even a clueless moron like yourself can see the obvious!
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(Msg. 54) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:12 pm
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In article <424F773C.7050204.RemoveThis@netscape.com>,
mjoann <xtcmusicfan.RemoveThis@netscape.com> wrote:
> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > <snork> BWahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!
> >
> > If you are to get enough "nutrition" in your diet simply from food,
> > you'd have to eat so much, you'll be a blimp in NO time!
> >
> > Do some research. I have.
>
> Apparently not. Most of the raw foods that hold the most minerals and
> vitamins have very few calories.
>
> It would be pretty difficult to become a "blimp" while depending on low
> calorie fruits and vegetables such as kale, carrots or broccoli, in
> fact, many people do that to LOSE weight.
>
> mjoann
>
And become scrawny little pencil necks while they are at it from lack of
protein....... ;-D
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(Msg. 55) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:25 pm
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In article <1112515339.880858.171610.RemoveThis@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Mr-Natural-Health" <johngohde.RemoveThis@naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote:
> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
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> > Do some research. I have.
> >
> > Supplementing is pretty much madatory nowadays!
> > Especially if one is weight lifting.
>
> Taking Steroids, no doubt?
>
Good lordy!
Why does every one have to throw steroids into the mix???
I've never touched a steroid in my life!
I don't want to be one of those 250lb. shredded phreaks.
I do, however, want to build a decent amount of muscle and stay lean so
I can look good naked.
Even of one DOES take steroids, you can't sit your ass on the couch and
eat burgers and fries and look like a bodybuilder!
It takes a proper diet and HOURS per week in the gym to do that!
Lots of time, HARD work and dedication!
Steroids, even for the pro's, are a very minor part of the equation.
There really are not that many weight lifters that screw around with
that stuff. Most of us just want to look good and have a nice, buff
physique.
Grow the hell up already! Sheesh!
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Om.
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(Msg. 56) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:47 pm
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Tom Phillips wrote:
> Pizza Girl wrote:
> >
> > Average lifespan of adults over 10 and dying os old age, was 42
years a few
> > hundred years ago (not counting the 50% of the children dying
before 10
> > years of age)
> >
> > Now we average what ? 72 years?
> >
> > All because of supplementation.
>
> Uh hmm...has nothing to do with advances in medicine...you
> have heard of such things as antibiotics, inoculations, and
> all those childhood diseases no one dies of today? not to
> mention silly little things like appendicitis, syphilis...
> Oh nevermind pizzeria, just take your vits and troll happily
> on. After all, everyone knows a daily multi cures cancer...
Actually both sides are correct - medical advances, immunizations,
nutrition, etc are all contributing factors to Americans longevity. So
its a combination of things. However increased supplementation of
vitamins/antioxidents/minerals is also right up there with why we live
a bit longer today (btw its not just your daily multivitamin anymore)
http://www.unc.edu/~lschleng/bothsexes.html
Not only do people use supplementation as a preventative measure, but
also to help treat diseases where modern medicine may have failed.
I think this is just one of those two sided for/against arguements
where people just have to disagree and go back into their corners
without changing anybodys viewpoints!
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(Msg. 57) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:01 pm
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For Christ's sake. This guy isn't a football player or a boxer, he's a body
builder,where science, study, documentation and hardwork is a necessity.
This makes it very clear the miniscule brainpower of these idiots that,
because they are totally ignorant in a field, have to change the subject by
insults.
Pretty obvious guys. Try alt.support.morons down the hall maybe?
"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <Omelet DeleteThis @brokenegz.com> wrote in message
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> In article <1112515339.880858.171610 DeleteThis @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> "Mr-Natural-Health" <johngohde DeleteThis @naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote:
>
> > OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> >
> > > Do some research. I have.
> > >
> > > Supplementing is pretty much madatory nowadays!
> > > Especially if one is weight lifting.
> >
> > Taking Steroids, no doubt?
> >
>
> Good lordy!
> Why does every one have to throw steroids into the mix???
>
> I've never touched a steroid in my life!
> I don't want to be one of those 250lb. shredded phreaks.
>
> I do, however, want to build a decent amount of muscle and stay lean so
> I can look good naked.
>
> Even of one DOES take steroids, you can't sit your ass on the couch and
> eat burgers and fries and look like a bodybuilder!
>
> It takes a proper diet and HOURS per week in the gym to do that!
> Lots of time, HARD work and dedication!
>
> Steroids, even for the pro's, are a very minor part of the equation.
>
> There really are not that many weight lifters that screw around with
> that stuff. Most of us just want to look good and have a nice, buff
> physique.
>
> Grow the hell up already! Sheesh!
> --
> Om.
>
> "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack
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(Msg. 58) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:09 pm
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In article <mqK3e.11184$z.1702@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"David Cohen" <sammiesdad.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> writes:
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> "Tom Phillips" <nospam777.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote
>> David Cohen wrote:
>>> "Tom Phillips" <nospam777.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote
>>> > David Cohen wrote:
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>>> >>
>>> > gee, I wonder what the human race did before
>>> > the modern suppliment industry...?
>>>
>>> Die younger.
>>
>> Oh my, people died from a lack of twin labs?
>>
>> And you of course have proof of this ludicrous
>> assertion
>
> Everyone born before 1900, who did not use twin labs supplements, is dead.
> All of them. A coincidence? I think not.
LOL!
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(Msg. 59) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:18 pm
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
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> In article <424F2B00.B3BB6638.RemoveThis@aol.com>,
> Tom Phillips <nospam777.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:
> > And what "daily amount" is that? Whatever the government says?
>
> <lol> The US-RDA governmental recommendations are more ignorant than you
> are!
That's my _point_, steroid breath.
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(Msg. 60) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:19 pm
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
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> In article <424F67CC.5915FA3B.RemoveThis@aol.com>,
> Tom Phillips <nospam777.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:
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> > David Cohen wrote:
> > >
> > > "Tom Phillips" <nospam777.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote
> > > > David Cohen wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Of course. What the diet and running morons fail to understand is that
> > > >> optimal levels of micronutrients, for optimal health and longevity, can
> > > >> not
> > > >> be achieved with just "a healthy diet". To do so would require tens of
> > > >> thousands of calories a day, or impossibly enormous volumes of food.
> > > >>
> > > > gee, I wonder what the human race did before
> > > > the modern suppliment industry...?
> > >
> > > Die younger.
> >
> > Oh my, people died from a lack of twin labs?
> >
> > And you of course have proof of this ludicrous
> > assertion
>
> Look at the increase in lifespans over time....
>
> I think even a clueless moron like yourself can see the obvious!
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