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Jeff

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:17 pm
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"T" <nospamthanks@nowhere> wrote in message
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> starved.TakeThisOut@rock.com wrote:
>> I take alot of vitamin and mineral supplements, but I'm on a budget
>> and need to stretch them out. What's the better choice, healthwise?
>>
>> A. Take a full dose of all supplements every other day.
>>
>> B. Take a half dose of all supplements every day.
>
> Eat a normal diet and forego the supplements?

Better yet, eat a healthy diet and forego the supplements.

Jeff

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:24 pm
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Scorn B Woe wrote:
>
> T wrote:
>
>>Eat a normal diet and forego the supplements?
>
>
> This guy is one of those dorks who thinks because you get colored
> urine, that the vitamins don't do any good.

Or maybe he knows that a nonnatural supplement is nowhere near as
beneficial as it would be naturally occurring in the correct proportions
in real food?

mjoann

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:24 pm
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In article <424EC9C6.8030306 RemoveThis @netscape.com>,
mjoann <xtcmusicfan RemoveThis @netscape.com> wrote:

> Scorn B Woe wrote:
> >
> > T wrote:
> >
> >>Eat a normal diet and forego the supplements?
> >
> >
> > This guy is one of those dorks who thinks because you get colored
> > urine, that the vitamins don't do any good.
>
> Or maybe he knows that a nonnatural supplement is nowhere near as
> beneficial as it would be naturally occurring in the correct proportions
> in real food?
>
> mjoann
>

While that may be true, in order to get the daily amount of even just
B-vitamins from your food, you'd have to eat an impossible amount of
food!

Milligram per milligram, supplements are CHEAPER and more efficient than
food!

C'mon folks! I know you know better than this!!!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:27 pm
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> Supplementing is pretty much madatory nowadays!
> Especially if one is weight lifting.

Yeah, don't forget that daily does of steroids...
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:30 pm
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
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> In article <424EC9C6.8030306.DeleteThis@netscape.com>,
> mjoann <xtcmusicfan.DeleteThis@netscape.com> wrote:
>
> > Scorn B Woe wrote:
> > >
> > > T wrote:
> > >
> > >>Eat a normal diet and forego the supplements?
> > >
> > >
> > > This guy is one of those dorks who thinks because you get colored
> > > urine, that the vitamins don't do any good.
> >
> > Or maybe he knows that a nonnatural supplement is nowhere near as
> > beneficial as it would be naturally occurring in the correct proportions
> > in real food?
> >
> > mjoann
> >
>
> While that may be true, in order to get the daily amount of even just
> B-vitamins from your food, you'd have to eat an impossible amount of
> food!

And what "daily amount" is that? Whatever the government says?
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:23 pm
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <Omelet RemoveThis @brokenegz.com> wrote in message
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> In article <1112460244.666417.139280 RemoveThis @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
> starved RemoveThis @rock.com wrote:
>
>> mjoann wrote:
>> > Scorn B Woe wrote:
>> > >
>> > > T wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>Eat a normal diet and forego the supplements?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > This guy is one of those dorks who thinks because you get colored
>> > > urine, that the vitamins don't do any good.
>> >
>> > Or maybe he knows that a nonnatural supplement is nowhere near as
>> > beneficial as it would be naturally occurring in the correct
>> proportions
>> > in real food?
>> >
>> > mjoann
>>
>> I'm counting calories to lose weight. And it's working. Eating with a
>> 500 calorie deficit per day, being 45 y/o, and exercising alot, (cardio
>> and weights) it's difficult or impossible for me to meet my nutritional
>> requirements through food alone. Hence the reason I'm taking
>> supplements.
>>
>> For those who take the position that supplements are unnecessary,
>> that's your prerogative. Maybe I'll take that debate up with you in
>> another thread sometime in then future and learn something. But for now
>> I plan on continuing to take them. So I'd like to hear from the "pro
>> supplement" crowd and see if there's a simple answer to my question.
>> Which choice is the better one, A or B? Thanks.
>>
>
> I'd vote "B", but if you shop around for brands etc., you might find you
> are overspending.
>
> I use a lot of "Now" brand. It's a generic brand but I and many others
> have found it to be excellent. I use their minerals and as many of the
> other additional supplements I can find as available.
>
> For the multi', "Solgar" was recommended to me by a doctor I know that
> is heavily into nutrition and herbals.
>
> When I compared it to others, it was higher in B-complex than just about
> any other multi'. I supplement minerals separately.
>
> Since B-vitamins are water soluble and are some of the more important
> ones, that is one thing I look for when buying supplements.
>
> Have you looked on line for supplement purchases? You can save 25% to
> 30% on name brands sometimes if you find the right company.
> --
> Om.
>
> "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack
> Nicholson

This is an excellent place to buy supplements inexpensively:
http://www.puritans.com/
Right now they have a buy 1 get 2 free sale and shipping is usually free
when you spend enough ($50 maybe). Each month is a different sale. Most
products are gluten free.
As far as quality goes, they can hardly be beat also. Check out this site
to see whether your supplement has what it says it has:
http://www.consumerlabs.com/
Puritan's Pride is always on the top 10 "good" list. It seems you just
can't go wrong with them.

(I am not affiliated with Puritan's Pride whatsoever.)
René
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:47 pm
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In article <1112464534.466504.18510.DeleteThis@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"joni" <jgrrl2.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> writes:
[snip]
> I would ask him what is he currently
> taking/why/and to make sure he is not duplicating ingredients in his
> current product choices because that is where you waste money.

A rational approach, IMO.

[snip]
> You may just need to trim down what you
> want to take versus what you can afford and add in the extras when you
> have the cash.
[snip]

You have to be careful with this "none of the above" choice, too.
Some supplements will not be as effective as they might otherwise
be if certain other "enabler" vitamins/minerals/etc. are not in
adequate supply in the body.

--
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:48 pm
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"Proton Soup" <proton.TakeThisOut@soup.org> wrote
> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>star...@rock.com wrote:
>>> I take alot of vitamin and mineral supplements, but I'm on a budget
>>and
>>> need to stretch them out. What's the better choice, healthwise?
>>>
>>> A. Take a full dose of all supplements every other day.
>>>
>>> B. Take a half dose of all supplements every day.
>>
>>B.
>>
>>Due to the water soluble nutrients.
>>
> Since you seem to be looking for consensus here, I'll have to agree
> with David and choose B.
>
> As for those other people saying you should just eat a healthy diet,
> that is certainly good advice, but no one eats healthy every day. I
> think you should both supplement and try to eat healthy, getting a
> wide variety of fruits and vegetables and animals.

Of course. What the diet and running morons fail to understand is that
optimal levels of micronutrients, for optimal health and longevity, can not
be achieved with just "a healthy diet". To do so would require tens of
thousands of calories a day, or impossibly enormous volumes of food.

David
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:48 pm
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David Cohen wrote:
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> Of course. What the diet and running morons fail to understand is that
> optimal levels of micronutrients, for optimal health and longevity, can not
> be achieved with just "a healthy diet". To do so would require tens of
> thousands of calories a day, or impossibly enormous volumes of food.
>

gee, I wonder what the human race did before
the modern suppliment industry...?
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:48 pm
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David Cohen <sammiesdad RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Of course. What the diet and running morons fail to understand

FWIW the diet morons haven't weighed in on this issue.
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:50 pm
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On 2 Apr 2005 07:03:53 -0800, starved.TakeThisOut@rock.com wrote:

>A. Take a full dose of all supplements every other day.
>
>B. Take a half dose of all supplements every day.

Eat fruits, vegetables and other stuff naturally containing them. Or
grow themselves and freeze down what you do not eat daily

Even in a balcony and windowsill you may grow lot of healthy
vegetables
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:35 pm
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Died early

"Tom Phillips" <nospam777.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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> David Cohen wrote:
> >
> > Of course. What the diet and running morons fail to understand is that
> > optimal levels of micronutrients, for optimal health and longevity, can
not
> > be achieved with just "a healthy diet". To do so would require tens of
> > thousands of calories a day, or impossibly enormous volumes of food.
> >
>
> gee, I wonder what the human race did before
> the modern suppliment industry...?
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:38 pm
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Do you have an peer reviewed documentation to back up the ludicrous
statements you make or are these just more pipe dreams in your head?

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> Better yet, eat a healthy diet and forego the supplements.
>
> Jeff
>
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:57 pm
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:02 am
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Pizza Girl wrote:
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> Died early

uh..sort of like the hundreds of thousands that annually
die early deaths today from Pizza Hut diets?

Think you've got that azz-backwards, pizza brain. More
people may have died from non-nutritional illnesses
(like bubonic plague...) but the unrefined foods they
typically grew and ate were far more wholesome (nutrient
rich and pesticide free.) Today's prepackaged, processed,
chemically enhanced garbage filling typical supermarket
shelves plus a bottle of twin labs does not equal longevity.

> "Tom Phillips" <nospam777.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > David Cohen wrote:
> > >
> > > Of course. What the diet and running morons fail to understand is that
> > > optimal levels of micronutrients, for optimal health and longevity, can
> not
> > > be achieved with just "a healthy diet". To do so would require tens of
> > > thousands of calories a day, or impossibly enormous volumes of food.
> > >
> >
> > gee, I wonder what the human race did before
> > the modern suppliment industry...?
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