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Ike

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:44 pm
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I am writing a business plan for our new commercial membership fitness
center. It will be a fairly large facility.

Before I can determine space requirements and equipment outlay, I have
questions about the business plan assumptions:

Given that I will have XXX members, only XX of them will typically be
in the gym at any given time, so how do I determine how many pieces of
equipment I need for a certain target number of total active members?

For example, if there are 500 active members, there might only be 30 of
them in the facility at any given moment. Are there any statistics on
this member-to-equipment ratio that are publicly available?

I have contacted 24 hour Fitness and others, and they will not give the
information out because it is of course trade secret information. But
I am hoping there are stats out there. i have not been able to find
any through exhaustive Googling.

Thank you very much!

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:36 am
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Ike wrote:
> I am writing a business plan for our new commercial membership
> fitness center. It will be a fairly large facility.
> Before I can determine space requirements and equipment outlay,
> I have questions about the business plan assumptions:
> Given that I will have XXX members, only XX of them will typically
> be in the gym at any given time, so how do I determine how many
> pieces of equipment I need for a certain target number of total
> active members? [....] Are there any statistics on this
> member-to-equipment ratio that are publicly available?

I doubt it, partly because I believe that is the wrong question to ask.

Major fitness center chains (24-Hour et al) pride themselves on
getting large numbers of memberships, knowing full-well that most
will rarely use the gym after some start-up enthusiasm. My guess
is: it is more likely that there is a statistic on the number of
"core"
members, which is mostly independent of the number of
memberships. This will vary from one area to another.

Moreover, the amount of equipment needed is related less to the
number of "core" members and more to (a) peak activity (arrival
rates of members and how long they work out), and (b) types of
equipment used by members. Both will vary from one area to
another.

Suggestion .... Find existing fitness centers that appeal to the
same clientele in similar area, sit in a car in a parking lot, and
measure the arrival and departure rates. Then purchase
memberships in one or two gyms in order to gain access, and
measure the machine usage. Also take note of the space used
by the facilities. Consider additional features that you might
want to provide in planning the space.

A statistician will talk about probabilities of arrival rates based
on a Poisson distribution or something similar. But you do not
need to be so sophisticated. The informal measurements above
should give you a pretty solid idea of your requirements.

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Vedran Presecki

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:03 pm
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"Ike" <ikenewton.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142300663.434545.180630@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> I am writing a business plan for our new commercial membership fitness
> center. It will be a fairly large facility.
>
> Before I can determine space requirements and equipment outlay, I have
> questions about the business plan assumptions:
>
> Given that I will have XXX members, only XX of them will typically be
> in the gym at any given time, so how do I determine how many pieces of
> equipment I need for a certain target number of total active members?

This mostly depend on trainers in the gym, because of system of the training
which they use... also it depending on clientel... but mostly on trainer who
lead gym.


> For example, if there are 500 active members, there might only be 30 of
> them in the facility at any given moment. Are there any statistics on
> this member-to-equipment ratio that are publicly available?

You shoud discuss this with trainers also and people who will lead gym...
there are many systems and tricks how to balance people and equipment...

I make consultations for Croatian gyms where now fitness centers i.e.
gyms working with out crowd and with foul capacity alos with out any
members vounds because of wrong equipment and usage.


>
> I have contacted 24 hour Fitness and others, and they will not give the
> information out because it is of course trade secret information.

Of course, but there is ways to be better then they.

But
> I am hoping there are stats out there. i have not been able to find
> any through exhaustive Googling.
>
> Thank you very much!

Most of You will find form concept of the gym, members profile and the
most from trainer - leader of gym... You can put in gym many machines
but this is not proff for sucess.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:16 pm
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<joeu2004 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ike wrote:
> > I am writing a business plan for our new commercial membership
> > fitness center. It will be a fairly large facility.
> > Before I can determine space requirements and equipment outlay,
> > I have questions about the business plan assumptions:
> > Given that I will have XXX members, only XX of them will typically
> > be in the gym at any given time, so how do I determine how many
> > pieces of equipment I need for a certain target number of total
> > active members? [....] Are there any statistics on this
> > member-to-equipment ratio that are publicly available?
>
> I doubt it, partly because I believe that is the wrong question to ask.
>
> Major fitness center chains (24-Hour et al) pride themselves on
> getting large numbers of memberships, knowing full-well that most
> will rarely use the gym after some start-up enthusiasm. My guess
> is: it is more likely that there is a statistic on the number of
> "core"
> members, which is mostly independent of the number of
> memberships. This will vary from one area to another.

Also for example, here in Europe there special par of the gyms circuits
of 12 machines with signal light board... concepted that on this machines
can work 12 people (new ones and recreatives) at same time. On
system of circuit training because trainers suggest this system for first
3-4 weeks of training new members, also many bussines mans make
20min cardio and this circuit training and go home... circuit training
is about 35min in average...

Result is that in gyms there is no crowd.

Regular menbers already know how to train and they manage, also
with few power racks You can double "bench press-es" which is
mor oftnen visited with bench pressers members...

There are many tricks, also all depending on equipment, would
you use plate loaded equipment, some special came equipment,
hydra equipment... free weights...


>
> Moreover, the amount of equipment needed is related less to the
> number of "core" members and more to (a) peak activity (arrival
> rates of members and how long they work out), and (b) types of
> equipment used by members. Both will vary from one area to
> another.

It is true, You must know the place wery well, when people work,
when cooming to gym, who comming to gym...

>
> Suggestion .... Find existing fitness centers that appeal to the
> same clientele in similar area, sit in a car in a parking lot, and
> measure the arrival and departure rates. Then purchase
> memberships in one or two gyms in order to gain access, and
> measure the machine usage. Also take note of the space used
> by the facilities. Consider additional features that you might
> want to provide in planning the space.
>
> A statistician will talk about probabilities of arrival rates based
> on a Poisson distribution or something similar. But you do not
> need to be so sophisticated. The informal measurements above
> should give you a pretty solid idea of your requirements.

With place dimensions, type of equipment and target people this
can be managed, aditional informations on place and gyms in
town is good but not so important to make sucess with gym.

Remember, people at front desk, trainers, crew of the gym make
all.
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