Can Fat be Fit?

In article
<khobman800-0A2610.13275020082007.RemoveThis@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
Hobbes <khobman800.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Short answer, according to Scientific American article.
>
> "No."
>
> Fat acceptance people notwithstanding, my take was, "Duh!"

Oops.

Link to article here:

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=3CCA0E80-E7F2-99DF-3ABA97D5027
BF4EE&chanID=sa006&colID=1

Or

http://tinyurl.com/2u5hww

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"Hobbes" <khobman800 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote
> Hobbes <khobman800 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Short answer, according to Scientific American article.
>>
>> "No."
>>
>> Fat acceptance people notwithstanding, my take was, "Duh!"
>
> Oops.
>
> Link to article here:
>
> http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=3CCA0E80-E7F2-99DF-3ABA97D5027
> BF4EE&chanID=sa006&colID=1
>
> Or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2u5hww

Sure, piss off the fat folks.

When Global Warming causes widespread famine, they will eat you first.

David
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In article <facsam$sd7$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"David Cohen" <sammiesdad.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Hobbes" <khobman800.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote
> > Hobbes <khobman800.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Short answer, according to Scientific American article.
> >>
> >> "No."
> >>
> >> Fat acceptance people notwithstanding, my take was, "Duh!"
> >
> > Oops.
> >
> > Link to article here:
> >
> > http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=3CCA0E80-E7F2-99DF-3ABA97D5027
> > BF4EE&chanID=sa006&colID=1
> >
> > Or
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/2u5hww
>
> Sure, piss off the fat folks.
>
> When Global Warming causes widespread famine, they will eat you first.
>

They have to catch me. I'm betting on the fit folk being the predators.

And the gun people. Dayum. I'm up the creek...

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"Hobbes" <khobman800 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote
> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Hobbes" <khobman800 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote
>> > Hobbes <khobman800 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Short answer, according to Scientific American article.
>> >>
>> >> "No."
>> >>
>> >> Fat acceptance people notwithstanding, my take was, "Duh!"
>> >
>> > Oops.
>> >
>> > Link to article here:
>> >
>> > http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=3CCA0E80-E7F2-99DF-3ABA97D5027
>> > BF4EE&chanID=sa006&colID=1
>> >
>> > Or
>> >
>> > http://tinyurl.com/2u5hww
>>
>> Sure, piss off the fat folks.
>>
>> When Global Warming causes widespread famine, they will eat you first.
>>
> They have to catch me. I'm betting on the fit folk being the predators.
>
> And the gun people. Dayum. I'm up the creek...

Yup. A point I've made to various martial artists: put me in a room, in my
normal everyday attire, with any of the Gracie brothers, or a reincarnated
Bruce Lee, and have us fight to the death.

Bang, I win.

David
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PaW wrote:
> I don't have the link (maybe Curt can google it),

Apologize for all the mean things you've said first.

> but there was a PBS show (Nova episode?) about fat-looking
> folks competing successfully in triathlons and such...one of
> 'em is a fat old champion runner of the Death Valley marathon
> or something....

Damn you! I can't resist a Google challenge!

Search string: pbs, triathlete, obese

"roly-poly triathlete Dave Alexander" from
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/fat/etc/press.html to

"David Alexander, a 52-year-old Phoenix businessman, has successfully
completed 262 triathlons despite his weight of 250 pounds" @
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F40D16F739540C758CDDAE...4DF494D
aka http://tinyurl.com/3xotr3

But looks like you'll have to pay for it.

> And, of course, I myself was beaten by a fat sailor
> friend of mine back in my Army days...so some fat
> folks can certainly be fit enough!

The fact that he had physical talent (or you're *slow* ;o)) doesn't
necessarily indicate a level of fitness or, rather, I guess it would
depend on your definition of fitness.

> Hobbes wrote:
> > Hobbes wrote:
> > > Short answer, according to Scientific American article.
>
> > > "No."
>
> > > Fat acceptance people notwithstanding, my take was, "Duh!"
>
> > Oops.
>
> > Link to article here: <snip>
> > http://tinyurl.com/2u5hww
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Cohen wrote:

[...]

> Yup. A point I've made to various martial artists: put me in a room, in my
> normal everyday attire, with any of the Gracie brothers, or a reincarnated
> Bruce Lee, and have us fight to the death.
>
> Bang, I win.

Why does that sound so familiar?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyBu4OFPmug

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In article <1187658718.569630.64130 RemoveThis @q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Curt <curtjames RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> PaW wrote:
> > I don't have the link (maybe Curt can google it),
>
> Apologize for all the mean things you've said first.
>
> > but there was a PBS show (Nova episode?) about fat-looking
> > folks competing successfully in triathlons and such...one of
> > 'em is a fat old champion runner of the Death Valley marathon
> > or something....
>
> Damn you! I can't resist a Google challenge!
>
> Search string: pbs, triathlete, obese
>
> "roly-poly triathlete Dave Alexander" from
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/fat/etc/press.html to
>
> "David Alexander, a 52-year-old Phoenix businessman, has successfully
> completed 262 triathlons despite his weight of 250 pounds" @
> http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F40D16F739540C758CDDAE0894DF49
> 4D81&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fSubjects%2fT%2fTriathlon
> aka http://tinyurl.com/3xotr3
>
> But looks like you'll have to pay for it.
>
> > And, of course, I myself was beaten by a fat sailor
> > friend of mine back in my Army days...so some fat
> > folks can certainly be fit enough!
>
> The fact that he had physical talent (or you're *slow* ;o)) doesn't
> necessarily indicate a level of fitness or, rather, I guess it would
> depend on your definition of fitness.
>
> > Hobbes wrote:
> > > Hobbes wrote:
> > > > Short answer, according to Scientific American article.
> >
> > > > "No."
> >
> > > > Fat acceptance people notwithstanding, my take was, "Duh!"
> >
> > > Oops.
> >
> > > Link to article here: <snip>
> > > http://tinyurl.com/2u5hww
>
>
>

Point is that statistically obesity is related to health problems. There
are always exceptions - you are talking a bell shaped distribution. So
you have some lean people with health problems and some fat people who
are healthy - the outliers. But the point remains. Fat isn't healthy and
the fat healthy people would still be fitter if they were leaner.

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Keith
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On Aug 20, 9:11 pm, Curt <curtja....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Apologize for all the mean things you've said first.

But they're not really mean if I didn't really mean them!

> Damn you! I can't resist a Google challenge!
>
> Search string: pbs, triathlete, obese
>
> "roly-poly triathlete Dave Alexander" fromhttp://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/fat/etc/press.htmlto
>
> "David Alexander, a 52-year-old Phoenix businessman, has successfully
> completed 262 triathlons despite his weight of 250 pounds" @http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F40D16F739540C758CDDA...
> akahttp://tinyurl.com/3xotr3

Wow, you are a regular Encyclopedia Brown you are! You should start
your own P.I. agency...maybe go into bounty hunting or something...you
would've caught Craig Titus, I bet....

> But looks like you'll have to pay for it.

I'd get you a gift subscription to the JMW Family News Quarterly, but
being a cat fancier I suspect you might already have one!

> The fact that he had physical talent (or you're *slow* ;o)) doesn't
> necessarily indicate a level of fitness or, rather, I guess it would
> depend on your definition of fitness.

That's the thing...I used to think of physical fitness in the
"holistic" way of the Army...now I see that there are different kinds
of fitnesses, for different particular tasks or sports....

So one can appear fat but be fit, or not be fat but weak...more than
meets the eye, IOW -- and, even, current scientific understanding!
Them powerlifters are usually fatbodies, aren't they.
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On Aug 21, 10:08 am, Hobbes <khobman....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <1187658718.569630.64....RemoveThis@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> Curt <curtja....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > PaW wrote:
> > > I don't have the link (maybe Curt can google it),
[...]
> > Search string: pbs, triathlete, obese
>
> > "roly-poly triathlete Dave Alexander" from
> >http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/fat/etc/press.htmlto
>
> > "David Alexander, a 52-year-old Phoenix businessman, has successfully
> > completed 262 triathlons despite his weight of 250 pounds" @
> >http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F40D16F739540C758CDDA...
> > 4D81&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fSubjects%2fT%2fTriathlon
> > akahttp://tinyurl.com/3xotr3
>
> > But looks like you'll have to pay for it.
>
> > > And, of course, I myself was beaten by a fat sailor
> > > friend of mine back in my Army days...so some fat
> > > folks can certainly be fit enough!
>
> > The fact that he had physical talent (or you're *slow* ;o)) doesn't
> > necessarily indicate a level of fitness or, rather, I guess it would
> > depend on your definition of fitness.
>
> > > Hobbes wrote:
> > > > Hobbes wrote:
> > > > > Short answer, according to Scientific American article.
>
> > > > > "No."
>
> > > > > Fat acceptance people notwithstanding, my take was, "Duh!"
>
> > > > Oops.
>
> > > > Link to article here: <snip>
> > > >http://tinyurl.com/2u5hww
>
> Point is that statistically obesity is related to health problems. There
> are always exceptions - you are talking a bell shaped distribution. So
> you have some lean people with health problems and some fat people who
> are healthy - the outliers. But the point remains. Fat isn't healthy and
> the fat healthy people would still be fitter if they were leaner.

Agreed. Like you said, "Duh!"

Regardless, I'm no fan of the blanket statement and suspect that lean
people with health problems are, at times, quick to dismiss someone
fat as less fortunate than themselves. A mistake, imo.

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PaW wrote:
[...]

> <snip> You should start your own P.I. agency...
> maybe go into bounty hunting or something...you
> would've caught Craig Titus, I bet....

Like that was a feat.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Dec-24-Sat-2005/news/5045342.html
aka http://tinyurl.com/2ozkqs

Apparently he told a friend where he was going and left a paper trail
by trading in his vehicle. Criminal genius.

The reviewjournal website offers, "Titus is charged with murder in the
death of his personal assistant, Melissa James, 28. The woman was
found strangled and burned in the back of Ryan's torched red Jaguar on
Dec. 14, off state Route 160."

Titus and Ryan are both guilty, imo. He stuck Melissa James in his
trunk and Ryan gets a manicure? Hey, what's not reasonable about that?
Ryan didn't know about the body?

"Honey, let's take a road trip."

[...]

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In article <1187795479.575176.181640 RemoveThis @z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
Curt <curtjames RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> PaW wrote:
> [...]
>
> > <snip> You should start your own P.I. agency...
> > maybe go into bounty hunting or something...you
> > would've caught Craig Titus, I bet....
>
> Like that was a feat.
>
> http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Dec-24-Sat-2005/news/5045342.html
> aka http://tinyurl.com/2ozkqs
>
> Apparently he told a friend where he was going and left a paper trail
> by trading in his vehicle. Criminal genius.
>
> The reviewjournal website offers, "Titus is charged with murder in the
> death of his personal assistant, Melissa James, 28. The woman was
> found strangled and burned in the back of Ryan's torched red Jaguar on
> Dec. 14, off state Route 160."
>
> Titus and Ryan are both guilty, imo. He stuck Melissa James in his
> trunk and Ryan gets a manicure? Hey, what's not reasonable about that?
> Ryan didn't know about the body?
>
> "Honey, let's take a road trip."
>
> [...]
>
> --
> Curt

The sad part about it is that you just KNOW the mass media is going to
try to stick steroids in there somewhere...

You just wait. :-p
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"Omelet" <> The sad part about it is that you just KNOW the mass media is
going to
> try to stick steroids in there somewhere...
>

What else could it be? The guy was getting it from two babes. Why did he
ruin everything for himself? STEROID RAGE. Found the girls munching each
other and he went nuts and slammed Melissa James head into the bench press
machine and then dropped the weight stack on her neck.
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On Aug 23, 11:59 am, Curt <curtja... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 22, 11:34 pm, "kcmunch...@gmail.com" <kcmunch... RemoveThis @gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 22, 11:11 am, Curt <curtja... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Titus and Ryan are both guilty, imo. He stuck Melissa James in his
> > > trunk and Ryan gets a manicure? Hey, what's not reasonable about that?
> > > Ryan didn't know about the body?
>
> > > "Honey, let's take a road trip."
> [...]
>
> > "one hundred percent not guilty!" - titus, ironically, quoting OJ at
> > his arraignment
>
> Absurd. OJ did it. Titus and Ryan are even more ridiculously guilty,
> though. At least OJ had the, "Hey, look what I *found*!" defense. Who
> put James in Titus' Jag and then set it on fire? The valet parking
> attendant killed her! That's it.
>
> Ryan purchasing lighter fluid was totally unrelated, of course.
>
> --
> Curt

Have you seen titus' video when he was transferred to prison? I mean,
for the first time that guy looked scared...

A qoute from the vid:

Officer: Any injuries?
Titus: Just my pride....


-Vince
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