Finally Bought Anthony Ellis' Program

External Since: Oct 29, 2005 Posts: 614

Dnia 2006-11-27 Shute napisa³(a):
> On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:50:48 +0000 (UTC), Andrzej Rosa
><bakters RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>So you aren't overtraining. You can push like that further, until
>>you will experience symptoms Bully describes, and keep pushing for
>>several months longer. Then you'll overtrain and be in troubles.
>>Serious overtraining is no joke. In general you overstimulate your
>>system which produces a lot of cortisol. After a while lots of bad
>>things start to happen.
>
> Then I guess I don't know what you guys are talking about.
> Overtraining in my book is going to the point where results have
> negative effects.

How do you know when your results start to have negative effects?
How do you know when you cross past diminishing returns into no
returns at all? It's not so easy to guess if you do not pay attention
to various symptoms of overreaching and overtraining.

> Apparently you are talking about going further
> towards death or something.

Well, depression is common among overtrained athletes, so some of them
can even die.

> Most normal people break down like I
> described long before they reach that level of training. Only a few
> idiots like that Nicole Richie chick end up in hospitals.

Pro athletes at times do overtrain. Most normal people get injured or
catch a flue before they have a chance to overdo things so far. Some
people have lower tolerance for stress, and they don't have to go crazy
in the gym to get overtrained. Perfectly normal person going through
hard times in life can overtrain by simply maintaining his former
routine. Also age plays a role, too. Actually, having normal life and
trying to push it hard in the gym can lead to overtraining in plenty of
ambitious people. Normal people often shorten their sleep to make time
for gym and other exercises. Lack of sleep will brake strongest guys.

And then the vicious cycle begins. You can't recover because you can't
sleep which leads to even worse sleep and even worse recovery. It's
much better to be smart than only tough.

--
Andrzej Rosa 1127R

External Since: Nov 06, 2006 Posts: 63

SEAL wrote:
>
> But before all of this, I wanted to try out Anthony Ellis' program, but
> it cost so much that I said I'll get it at the end of the year. I just
> ordered it a couple of days ago; it should be coming soon. However, the
> first 30 pages of his book are online in his Inner Circle site.

i have no idea what you're talking about, but the days of
super-expensive super-exclusive super-secret workout routines is long
gone. anyone asking more than the normal going rate for a workout
routine is ripping you off.

> With the (b), I got great results. Anthony Ellis says go to the gym
> half as much. I'm not looking for the easy way out, I want results. Is
> this right? Mike Mentzer preaches the same thing.

mike mentzer was also notorious for drinking his own urine.

>
> I'm almost thinking the Anthony Ellis book is bogus. What do you think?
> Do you lift heavy 6 or 3 days per week?

it depends. if i'm going heavy, i can really only handle working out
every other day for extended periods of time.

>
> SEAL

you look a lot bigger than 160 in your videos.

ps--how did you get all those scars on your face?