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32andtwentyseven

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:00 am
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I am if anyone has worked off an overhanging belly and reduced it to a
6-pack.

I ask because I saw a program on TV were a woman was trying to lose
weight through fitness work, yet failed to work off her overhanging
belly. Her personal trainer implied that it might be impossible for
her to ever work it off! Could this be true?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:48 am
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32andtwentyseven.DeleteThis@xemaps.com> wrote in message
> Her personal trainer implied that it might be impossible for
> her to ever work [her belly] off! Could this be true?

Dunno bout wimmen but I developed a gut in my 20's and worked it down to a
flat belly, got fat again in my 30's and worked it back down flat. Now in my
40's, it got worse than ever, but working it back down again. Lot slower
this time but I'm beginning to see the makings of a 4-pack.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:51 am
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On May 7, 8:00 am, 32andtwentyseven <32andtwentyse... RemoveThis @xemaps.com>
wrote:
> Her personal trainer implied that it might be impossible for
> her to ever work it off! Could this be true?

Probably. But not always. It depends as usual on ones ability to lower
their bodyfat percentage and their genetic skin elasticity. The
popularity of tummy tucks shows that most people either arent willing
to go the distance or just cant get to that level no matter what. One
example of a woman who did tho is Mina:
http://www.ljf.com/bfl/mina-hobbi.html
And amongst many on this site:
Paul ..... http://www.bodychangers.com/interview_reading.php?id=118
Pam ... her first pics: http://www.bodychangers.com/interview_reading.php?id=119
who went into competitions: http://www.pam-brown.com/index.html

So altho not probable, its possible ...


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:42 pm
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32andtwentyseven" <32andtwentyseven.RemoveThis@xemaps.com> wrote in message
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>I am if anyone has worked off an overhanging belly and reduced it to a
> 6-pack.
>
> I ask because I saw a program on TV were a woman was trying to lose
> weight through fitness work, yet failed to work off her overhanging
> belly. Her personal trainer implied that it might be impossible for
> her to ever work it off! Could this be true?
>

Most of this is going to have to do with one's genetics and age. If she was
older and had a lot of stretched out skin, then she may never get rid of the
skin other than through surgery. If she is young and has good elasticity to
her skin, it should be no problem. When I decided to get back into shape
when I was 21, I went from a 33" waist to a 28" waist and had no problems
with skin. I was young too. Most people don't get rid of the fat, so many
times they want to blame their genetics when they are just lazy.



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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:45 pm
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I take it that you like to SPAM for this Body for Life bullshit??

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the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
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"joanne" <jgrrl2.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On May 7, 8:00 am, 32andtwentyseven <32andtwentyse....RemoveThis@xemaps.com>
> wrote:
>> Her personal trainer implied that it might be impossible for
>> her to ever work it off! Could this be true?
>
> Probably. But not always. It depends as usual on ones ability to lower
> their bodyfat percentage and their genetic skin elasticity. The
> popularity of tummy tucks shows that most people either arent willing
> to go the distance or just cant get to that level no matter what. One
> example of a woman who did tho is Mina:
> http://www.ljf.com/bfl/mina-hobbi.html
> And amongst many on this site:
> Paul ..... http://www.bodychangers.com/interview_reading.php?id=118
> Pam ... her first pics:
> http://www.bodychangers.com/interview_reading.php?id=119
> who went into competitions: http://www.pam-brown.com/index.html
>
> So altho not probable, its possible ...
>
>
> joanne
>
>
>
>
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:00 pm
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In article <5a99ntF2nc96cU1 RemoveThis @mid.individual.net>,
"Bully" <bully62 RemoveThis @proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:

> In news:1178550039.757712.68210@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,
> 32andtwentyseven <32andtwentyseven RemoveThis @xemaps.com> typed:
> > I am if anyone has worked off an overhanging belly and reduced it to a
> > 6-pack.
> >
> > I ask because I saw a program on TV were a woman was trying to lose
> > weight through fitness work, yet failed to work off her overhanging
> > belly. Her personal trainer implied that it might be impossible for
> > her to ever work it off! Could this be true?
>
> Did you think the personal trainer was in the least bit credible?

Having missed the rest of this thread and not having seen the show, I
still have to point out that fat loss normally follows the first on,
last off rule. If a person is predisposed to abdominal fat (the "beer
belly" it would be more difficult for that person to develop a
'six-pack" than a person who has fat stored all over.

Not impossible, but difficult.

As well some women have a 'pooch' which is the result of the skin
stretching during pregnancy. Once again, makes it difficult for them.

Even among extremely muscular, low bodyfat bodybuilders the six pack can
be elusive for a few. Boyer Coe comes to mind. Amazingly muscled, low
fat and yet it was tough for him to develop a six pack.

As again though, as a general rule it is simply a matter of reducing
bodyfat. There are some exceptions.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:05 pm
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:03 pm
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spacemar...@mailinator wrote:
> x

Marks the spot?

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:35 pm
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In news:1178550039.757712.68210@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,
32andtwentyseven <32andtwentyseven.DeleteThis@xemaps.com> typed:
> I am if anyone has worked off an overhanging belly and reduced it to a
> 6-pack.
>
> I ask because I saw a program on TV were a woman was trying to lose
> weight through fitness work, yet failed to work off her overhanging
> belly. Her personal trainer implied that it might be impossible for
> her to ever work it off! Could this be true?

Did you think the personal trainer was in the least bit credible?

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the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:38 am
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:21 am
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"32andtwentyseven" <32andtwentyseven.DeleteThis@xemaps.com> schreef:

> I ask because I saw a program on TV were a woman was trying to lose
> weight through fitness work, yet failed to work off her overhanging
> belly. Her personal trainer implied that it might be impossible for
> her to ever work it off! Could this be true?

Yes.

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<spacemarine.TakeThisOut@mailinator.com> schreef:

> x

I warned you.

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:33 am
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"Shute" <Shute RemoveThis @nowhere.com> schreef:

> Here is a guy who decided to track his progress rather than
> before/after pictures:
> http://www.naturalphysiques.com/cms/index.php?itemid=144

Amazing what diets can do, doesnt it?

Besides reducing bodyfat, your skin color and bodyhair pattern also change.

Not to mention the skin that starts to secrete excess oil.

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:34 pm
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In article <7tuv339jpe44a6ffrm52jn6fnu2vqjci4a RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
Shute <Shute RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 07 May 2007 14:00:16 -0600, Hobbes <khobman800 RemoveThis @yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Having missed the rest of this thread and not having seen the show, I
> >still have to point out that fat loss normally follows the first on,
> >last off rule. If a person is predisposed to abdominal fat (the "beer
> >belly" it would be more difficult for that person to develop a
> >'six-pack" than a person who has fat stored all over.
>
> But can't the placement of fat change over time? I don't think I have
> much more body fat then when I was a teen. Yet then it was spread all
> over and now it is in my gut. I figure I have to get it down to
> nothing and see if it builds back a little smoother next time.

The placement disposition is genetic - it won't change. However, there
are other hormonal factors that have changed with age which may affect
how you store fat when you are younger. As with most body things it is
multifactoral. Lots of stuff going on. So while gene expression may be
saying 'store fat on gut' hormonal expression may be saying to store on
other places too. So how you store fat can change with age, but it isn't
because gene expression has changed - it is moderated by other factors.
>
> Here is a guy who decided to track his progress rather than
> before/after pictures:
> http://www.naturalphysiques.com/cms/index.php?itemid=144
>
>
> >Not impossible, but difficult.
> >
> >As well some women have a 'pooch' which is the result of the skin
> >stretching during pregnancy. Once again, makes it difficult for them.
>
> I think I have one of those but not sure how I got it. My
> understanding is that it has to do with the internal muscles. Most
> traditional exercises won't target it.

I'm not sure what you mean here. You have rectus abdominus and internal
and external obliques. The internal and external obliques are
responsible for flexion, rotation and lateral flexion. If your
traditional exercises don't target them you are doing the wrong
traditional exercises, as most core work uses them. Put another way both
traditional gymnastics and traditional pilates exercises target them
extensively.
>
> >Even among extremely muscular, low bodyfat bodybuilders the six pack can
> >be elusive for a few. Boyer Coe comes to mind. Amazingly muscled, low
> >fat and yet it was tough for him to develop a six pack.
> >
> >As again though, as a general rule it is simply a matter of reducing
> >bodyfat. There are some exceptions.
>
> I think you need to hit a specific parentage of bodyft. And that is
> lower than most are able to go.

Not able, willing to go. I guarantee you most people are able to develop
a six-pack, but most aren't willing to. It is a question of volition,
not ability.

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:43 pm
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