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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:25 am
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21 years old,.5'10"
On my fat loss program, I'm now currently at 141 lbs and 9.2% body fat
according to Tanita Scale using regular adult mode at sedentary
activity level setting. Goal is 7% BF.
How do you tell when your leptin levels drop and that it's time to
refeed?
Also, how do you tell when your body starts to do
physiological/metabolic adaptations, and what % bodyfat do those
generally start at?
If those scenarios 'were to' happen, the adaptations/lowering of
leptin/etc., how would they reflect on the numbers/stats on my Excel
chart?
such as:
daily measured weight & fat%,
10-day rolling average trend weight,
7-day moving average fat%,
true metabolic rate based on actual changes in 10-day rolling average
trend weight
average daily calorie deficit
When I look back at my chart, I have periods where my intake was at or
close baseline on random days. On special occasions and also at random
times as well, it was a little above maintenance. On Thanksgiving day,
intake was somewhat above baseline, too. Intake during program has
zig-zagged a lot and was never the same day after day. Some days were
700 deficits, 200 deficits, 1000 deficits, 300 deficits, 1200 deficits,
500 deficits, etc.. kinda like a Zig-Zag effect.
Over November, I've lost 3 lbs and 1.6% bodyfat. I went from 10.8% fat
to my current 9.2%. Average deficit over whole program so far has been
550 which is roughly 1 lb per week since Sept. 1st.
I'm not sure how December is going to pan out. But it looks like it
will be a pretty good month. During the peak of the holidays
(Christmas), I plan to shift Calories to around neutral mode or
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:24 am
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Pentastar wrote:
> 21 years old,.5'10"
> On my fat loss program, I'm now currently at 141 lbs and 9.2% body fat
> according to Tanita Scale using regular adult mode at sedentary
> activity level setting. Goal is 7% BF.
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> How do you tell when your leptin levels drop and that it's time to
> refeed?
At 5'10" and 141 pounds, you can tell it's time to refeed because a
light breeze blows you into the next county.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:35 pm
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:32 pm
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:17 pm
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The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
> Pentastar <Pentastar90 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > Goal is 7% BF.
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> Why?
So, I will look better, I think.
To go on a tangent here,
There's a person called Ron Brown who does a book called the Body Fat
Guide. He has his own website, too, www.bodyfatguide.com . He's got
these wierd principles. He says that if you lift weights while you're
in a kcal deficit, then you will lose muscle.
Rubbish, I feel this is. Almost every post I've read on this usenet
section says that you have to do resistance exercise to maintain muscle
mass while trying to lose fat.
Also, Ron Brown says it's ok to do fast fat loss programs, like 2 lbs
every few days where you maintain 2,333 kcal deficits. Hmmm....yet,
he's against crash diets. Sounds hypocritical, doesn't it? Basically,
in this case, he tells you to walk 3.5 mph for hours and hours each day
and eat as low as 1,100 calories.
Myself? I would not recommend doing this unless you want to do costly
damage to your metabolism.
He sounds like quackery to me esp. after reading about his fast fat
loss pages on his site fairly recently.
I bet he's in this for the money.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:43 pm
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David Cohen wrote:
> Pentastar wrote:
> > 21 years old,.5'10"
> > On my fat loss program, I'm now currently at 141 lbs and 9.2% body fat
> > according to Tanita Scale using regular adult mode at sedentary
> > activity level setting. Goal is 7% BF.
> >
> > How do you tell when your leptin levels drop and that it's time to
> > refeed?
>
> At 5'10" and 141 pounds, you can tell it's time to refeed because a
> light breeze blows you into the next county.
>
> David
Clap:::Clap:::Clap:::LOL ;-D LOL:::Clap:::Clap:::Clap
>From looking at my chart, it appears that I've been hitting baseline or
a little above at times in terms of intake. Whenever I have a social
gathering, holiday, or when going out to eat with friends/family, I
generally take a day off and eat at neutral or excess calories.
Usually, those are unplanned. However, it's done more or less seldomly.
On these days, I could consider them refeeds even though I didn't
actually plan them that way.
I 'could' say they were 'probably' beneficial for my fat loss even
though I didn't realize it as being beneficial. I'm not sure how much
more often I will need to refeed as I get to lower body fat levels.
When you do your refeed days, how do you generally do them?
On the other hand, I went and bought some more fish oil supplements for
EFA's. I'm taking 6 capsules 3xday w/ meals. I had also started taking
750mg Calcium Bis-Glycinate 3xday the other week. >> Stay informed about: Fat loss progress |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 4:59 am
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"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <dhrravr.RemoveThis@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote in message
news:1h6xg4j.1flhtnltyqc2yN%dhrravr@ohatzhapu.bet...
> Pentastar <Pentastar90.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Goal is 7% BF.
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> Why?
I'm at 7, and I love it. It's cool to be ripped. What don't you get? It's
good for him to have a goal to shoot for, for that matter. However, being
that light, I would want to gain muscle. Being low body fat and low
weight... now that's just gross. >> Stay informed about: Fat loss progress |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 4:59 am
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"Steve McDevitt" <maktos4.RemoveThis@insightbb.com> wrote:
>"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <dhrravr.RemoveThis@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote
>> Pentastar <Pentastar90.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Goal is 7% BF.
>>
>> Why?
>
>I'm at 7, and I love it. It's cool to be ripped. What don't you get?
YEAH, MICA, WHAT THE HELL DON'T YOU GET?!
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:20 am
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Steve McDevitt <maktos4 DeleteThis @insightbb.com> wrote:
> "The Queen of Cans and Jars" <dhrravr DeleteThis @ohatzhapu.bet> wrote:
> > Pentastar <Pentastar90 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
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> >> Goal is 7% BF.
> >
> > Why?
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> I'm at 7, and I love it.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:20 am
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The Queen of ~*Not*~ 7 Percent BF and ~*Never Gonna Be*~
<dhrravr.TakeThisOut@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote:
>> > Pentastar <Pentastar90.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> >> Goal is 7% BF.
>> >
>> > Why?
>Steve McDevitt <maktos4.TakeThisOut@insightbb.com> wrote:
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>> I'm at 7, and I love it.
>
>Did I ask you?
Post to Usenet often?
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 6:08 am
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Pentastar wrote:
> David Cohen wrote:
> > Pentastar wrote:
> > > 21 years old,.5'10"
> > > On my fat loss program, I'm now currently at 141 lbs and 9.2% body fat
> > > according to Tanita Scale using regular adult mode at sedentary
> > > activity level setting. Goal is 7% BF.
> > >
> > > How do you tell when your leptin levels drop and that it's time to
> > > refeed?
> >
> > At 5'10" and 141 pounds, you can tell it's time to refeed because a
> > light breeze blows you into the next county.
> >
> > David
>
> Clap:::Clap:::Clap:::LOL ;-D LOL:::Clap:::Clap:::Clap
>
> >From looking at my chart, it appears that I've been hitting baseline or
> a little above at times in terms of intake. Whenever I have a social
> gathering, holiday, or when going out to eat with friends/family, I
> generally take a day off and eat at neutral or excess calories.
> Usually, those are unplanned. However, it's done more or less seldomly.
> On these days, I could consider them refeeds even though I didn't
> actually plan them that way.
>
> I 'could' say they were 'probably' beneficial for my fat loss even
> though I didn't realize it as being beneficial. I'm not sure how much
> more often I will need to refeed as I get to lower body fat levels.
>
> When you do your refeed days, how do you generally do them?
>
> On the other hand, I went and bought some more fish oil supplements for
> EFA's. I'm taking 6 capsules 3xday w/ meals. I had also started taking
> 750mg Calcium Bis-Glycinate 3xday the other week.
If you were 5'10" and 195 pounds at 9% trying to get to 7%, i'd say you
were a bodybuilder. At 5'10" and 141 pounds at 9% trying to get to 7%,
you have an eating disorder/body dysmorphic syndrome, and need to see a
psychiatrist.
And, no, I'm not joking. You need professional help.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 2:47 pm
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:05 pm
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Pentastar <Pentastar90 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
> > Pentastar <Pentastar90 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Goal is 7% BF.
> >
> > Why?
>
> So, I will look better, I think.
I don't think you will. Most people can't pull that off, and even on
the people who can it doesn't look all that good to me. It starts to
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:05 pm
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In article <1h6znw9.oni56r18a5mhiN%dhrravr@ohatzhapu.bet>,
dhrravr DeleteThis @ohatzhapu.bet (The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:
> Pentastar <Pentastar90 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
> > > Pentastar <Pentastar90 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Goal is 7% BF.
> > >
> > > Why?
> >
> > So, I will look better, I think.
>
> I don't think you will. Most people can't pull that off, and even on
> the people who can it doesn't look all that good to me. It starts to
> border on unnatural.
>
Yeah.
They look like famine victims. 
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