Excess Protein -- Fat or Feces?

JMW wrote:
> "Rachael Reynolds" wrote:
[...]
> >The body can't store excess protein as protein so it does a combination of
> >two things - breaks it down in the liver and pees it out (not feces, but
> >pee) and some it breaks down and stores as fat. There is certainly no
> >benefit to excess protein.
>
> Protein breaks down into constituent amino acids.
>
> It's the amino acids that are metabolized in the liver.
>
> You only pee out the urea.
>
> The remaining carbon skeleton can be converted to either glycogen or
> fatty acids, depending on the amino acid that was deaminated.

Thus verifying Jason Earl's belief regarding Google being an
unnecessary tool.

--
Curt
 >> Stay informed about: Excess Protein -- Fat or Feces? 

Gout is when the kidneys don't clear out the uric acid from purine digestion.

The uric acid goes to your joints and basically creates a form of arthritis.

The most concentrated purine is found in little fishes, sweatbreads
(internal organs), shellfish, brewer's years and caffeine. (yes,
caffeine is a purine, but it may hasten excretion of uric acid instead
- still debated)

Some extreme cases will have pimples of uric acid on their ear lobes
and face and when those pimples (tophi) pop, they excrete (white
chalky) uric acid. Worse, still, you can get deposits of uric acid in
your internal organs.

http://www.merck.com/mrkshared/mmanual/section5/chapter55/55a.jsp

see also goutpal.com

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http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm
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 >> Stay informed about: Excess Protein -- Fat or Feces? 

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <ompomelet.RemoveThis@removespam.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ompomelet-5184A8.14185022092006@news.giganews.com...
> In article <1158946082.407848.212400.RemoveThis@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
> "NYC XYZ" <jack_foreigner.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > LOL -- but seriously, I heard or read once that excess protein is
> > simply excreted out. I also read, much more often, that excess protein
> > becomes fat (and I thought only excess carbs can become fat).
> >
> > So what, exactly, is excreted in the form of feces? (If you must quip
> > -- please make it funny, at least.) I know most of it is intestinal
> > bacteria, but what exactly is the "waste"?? Okay, fiber, and make that
> > grit of sand which wasn't washed off from your lettuce...but what else?
> >
> > I ask 'cause it seems awfully wasteful if excess protein is what's
> > excreted...at the same time, I guess that's better than the body
> > building more fat cells to imprision it! Such a chore getting all
> > three things -- training, diet, and rest -- right at the same time
> > regularly over the long-haul....
>
> If your sweat smells like ammonia, you are probably over-doing it.
>
> I'm not kidding......
> --

Hey Om, overdoing the protein intake if your sweat smells like ammonia? Mine
does and I wondered why.
I need to look into my diet then which is lean chicken mostly, and
vegetables or salad.
Are there any specific foodstuffs that are known to cause this situation?
 >> Stay informed about: Excess Protein -- Fat or Feces? 

In article <45144595_1.DeleteThis@news.iprimus.com.au>, "mike" <mike.DeleteThis@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <ompomelet.DeleteThis@removespam.gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ompomelet-5184A8.14185022092006@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <1158946082.407848.212400.DeleteThis@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
> > "NYC XYZ" <jack_foreigner.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > LOL -- but seriously, I heard or read once that excess protein is
> > > simply excreted out. I also read, much more often, that excess protein
> > > becomes fat (and I thought only excess carbs can become fat).
> > >
> > > So what, exactly, is excreted in the form of feces? (If you must quip
> > > -- please make it funny, at least.) I know most of it is intestinal
> > > bacteria, but what exactly is the "waste"?? Okay, fiber, and make that
> > > grit of sand which wasn't washed off from your lettuce...but what else?
> > >
> > > I ask 'cause it seems awfully wasteful if excess protein is what's
> > > excreted...at the same time, I guess that's better than the body
> > > building more fat cells to imprision it! Such a chore getting all
> > > three things -- training, diet, and rest -- right at the same time
> > > regularly over the long-haul....
> >
> > If your sweat smells like ammonia, you are probably over-doing it.
> >
> > I'm not kidding......
> > --
>
> Hey Om, overdoing the protein intake if your sweat smells like ammonia? Mine
> does and I wondered why.
> I need to look into my diet then which is lean chicken mostly, and
> vegetables or salad.
> Are there any specific foodstuffs that are known to cause this situation?

Just watch the amounts.

Wasted protein is wasted money.......

And I know I sure as hell cannot afford it!
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson
 >> Stay informed about: Excess Protein -- Fat or Feces? 

In article <ompomelet-DEA8FD.15391622092006 DeleteThis @news.giganews.com>,
OmManiPadmeOmelet <ompomelet DeleteThis @removespam.gmail.com> wrote:

>
> And I know I sure as hell cannot afford it!

'Cause you're too busy buying guns you freak.
 >> Stay informed about: Excess Protein -- Fat or Feces? 

In article <willbrink-2209061829440001 DeleteThis @192.168.2.156>,
willbrink DeleteThis @comcast.net (Will Brink) wrote:

> In article <ompomelet-DEA8FD.15391622092006 DeleteThis @news.giganews.com>,
> OmManiPadmeOmelet <ompomelet DeleteThis @removespam.gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > And I know I sure as hell cannot afford it!
>
> 'Cause you're too busy buying guns you freak.

Pretty much... <G>

I won't be buying any more now. I have what I want.
The Mossy was the last (planned) purchase.

Now all I have to do is "feed" them from time to time......
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson
 >> Stay informed about: Excess Protein -- Fat or Feces? 

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <ompomelet.DeleteThis@removespam.gmail.com> wrote
> willbrink.DeleteThis@comcast.net (Will Brink) wrote:
>> OmManiPadmeOmelet <ompomelet.DeleteThis@removespam.gmail.com> wrote:

>> > And I know I sure as hell cannot afford it!
>>
>> 'Cause you're too busy buying guns you freak.
>
> Pretty much... <G>
>
> I won't be buying any more now. I have what I want.
> The Mossy was the last (planned) purchase.
>
> Now all I have to do is "feed" them from time to time......

With my driver's license, credit card, and concealed weapons permit in my
wallet, I can walk into any gun shop in Nevada and, within a few minutes,
walk out with any (non-fully automatic) firearm.

I leave the credit cards at home now when I go into gun shops. My last
"planned" purchase was long ago. I've had LOTS of impulse purchases since.
Love them all, but, I try to prevent them now.

David
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2006, vjp2.at RemoveThis @at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

>Gout is when the kidneys don't clear out the uric acid from purine digestion.
>
>The uric acid goes to your joints and basically creates a form of arthritis.
>
>The most concentrated purine is found in little fishes, sweatbreads
>(internal organs), shellfish, brewer's years and caffeine. (yes,
>caffeine is a purine, but it may hasten excretion of uric acid instead
>- still debated)

Here's a recent article on gout:
http://www.thepaleodiet.com/newsletter/newsletters/PDN_Vol2No4.pdf

Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
 >> Stay informed about: Excess Protein -- Fat or Feces? 

In article <NF1Rg.11139$v%4.4015@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"David Cohen" <sammiesdad.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote:

> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <ompomelet.TakeThisOut@removespam.gmail.com> wrote
> > willbrink.TakeThisOut@comcast.net (Will Brink) wrote:
> >> OmManiPadmeOmelet <ompomelet.TakeThisOut@removespam.gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > And I know I sure as hell cannot afford it!
> >>
> >> 'Cause you're too busy buying guns you freak.
> >
> > Pretty much... <G>
> >
> > I won't be buying any more now. I have what I want.
> > The Mossy was the last (planned) purchase.
> >
> > Now all I have to do is "feed" them from time to time......
>
> With my driver's license, credit card, and concealed weapons permit in my
> wallet, I can walk into any gun shop in Nevada and, within a few minutes,
> walk out with any (non-fully automatic) firearm.

Ditto here... With the CCW they don't even have to make "that" phone
call.

>
> I leave the credit cards at home now when I go into gun shops. My last
> "planned" purchase was long ago. I've had LOTS of impulse purchases since.
> Love them all, but, I try to prevent them now.
>
> David

<lol> I know what you mean!

I went to the gun show last Saturday to discuss the problem with the
magazines I bought from a dealer for the SW9VE (at $40.00 each with the
tax) and ended up coming home with 3 guns.

Granted, I'd been looking for a short barreled shotgun for the house and
this is an older, very beautiful Mossberg with a blued barrel in 20
gauge for only $180.00, but my housemate fell in love with a nice little
30-30 rifle. <sigh>

I figured it was time to pay him back for the .308 he gave me as a 16th
birthday gift. Beautiful weapon, I still have it. Kicks like a mule
but that's ok...

Also picked up another pre-owned .40 for him in perfect condition, same
model as mine. It was a steal.

Note to self, leave the damned credit card at home when visiting Saxet
shows!
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson
 >> Stay informed about: Excess Protein -- Fat or Feces? 

In article <ompomelet-9465FD.21201422092006 RemoveThis @news.giganews.com>,
OmManiPadmeOmelet <ompomelet RemoveThis @removespam.gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <willbrink-2209061829440001 RemoveThis @192.168.2.156>,
> willbrink RemoveThis @comcast.net (Will Brink) wrote:
>
> > In article <ompomelet-DEA8FD.15391622092006 RemoveThis @news.giganews.com>,
> > OmManiPadmeOmelet <ompomelet RemoveThis @removespam.gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > And I know I sure as hell cannot afford it!
> >
> > 'Cause you're too busy buying guns you freak.
>
> Pretty much... <G>
>
> I won't be buying any more now.

They all say that!

> I have what I want.

Until the next show you attend or store you walk into....


> The Mossy was the last (planned) purchase.
>
> Now all I have to do is "feed" them from time to time......

I hear dat.
 >> Stay informed about: Excess Protein -- Fat or Feces? 

In article <willbrink-2309061004160001.RemoveThis@192.168.2.156>,
willbrink.RemoveThis@comcast.net (Will Brink) wrote:

> In article <ompomelet-9465FD.21201422092006.RemoveThis@news.giganews.com>,
> OmManiPadmeOmelet <ompomelet.RemoveThis@removespam.gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <willbrink-2209061829440001.RemoveThis@192.168.2.156>,
> > willbrink.RemoveThis@comcast.net (Will Brink) wrote:
> >
> > > In article <ompomelet-DEA8FD.15391622092006.RemoveThis@news.giganews.com>,
> > > OmManiPadmeOmelet <ompomelet.RemoveThis@removespam.gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > And I know I sure as hell cannot afford it!
> > >
> > > 'Cause you're too busy buying guns you freak.
> >
> > Pretty much... <G>
> >
> > I won't be buying any more now.
>
> They all say that!

Indeed...
My poor housemate complained about the show.
Said it was like taking a broke kid into a candy store.
He's the one that got me hooked on rifles starting at
age 4.

>
> > I have what I want.
>
> Until the next show you attend or store you walk into....

<G>
Gotta gotta gotta leave the Visa card at home!

>
>
> > The Mossy was the last (planned) purchase.
> >
> > Now all I have to do is "feed" them from time to time......
>
> I hear dat.

Note to self: Look for #1 buckshot for the Mossy at Cabellas.....
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson
 >> Stay informed about: Excess Protein -- Fat or Feces? 

In article <NF1Rg.11139$v%4.4015@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"David Cohen" <sammiesdad.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote:

> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <ompomelet.RemoveThis@removespam.gmail.com> wrote
> > willbrink.RemoveThis@comcast.net (Will Brink) wrote:
> >> OmManiPadmeOmelet <ompomelet.RemoveThis@removespam.gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > And I know I sure as hell cannot afford it!
> >>
> >> 'Cause you're too busy buying guns you freak.
> >
> > Pretty much... <G>
> >
> > I won't be buying any more now. I have what I want.
> > The Mossy was the last (planned) purchase.
> >
> > Now all I have to do is "feed" them from time to time......
>
> With my driver's license, credit card, and concealed weapons permit in my
> wallet, I can walk into any gun shop in Nevada and, within a few minutes,
> walk out with any (non-fully automatic) firearm.
>
> I leave the credit cards at home now when I go into gun shops. My last
> "planned" purchase was long ago. I've had LOTS of impulse purchases since.
> Love them all, but, I try to prevent them now.

I have to stay out of high end audio stores, gun stores, and any place
that has watches. If I go into such a place, something gets purchased and
I don't want that!

>
> David
 >> Stay informed about: Excess Protein -- Fat or Feces? 

NYC XYZ wrote:

> So what, exactly, is excreted in the form of feces? (If you must quip
> -- please make it funny, at least.) I know most of it is intestinal
> bacteria, but what exactly is the "waste"?? Okay, fiber, and make that
> grit of sand which wasn't washed off from your lettuce...but what else?
>
> I ask 'cause it seems awfully wasteful if excess protein is what's
> excreted...at the same time, I guess that's better than the body
> building more fat cells to imprision it! Such a chore getting all
> three things -- training, diet, and rest -- right at the same time
> regularly over the long-haul....

Wonderful, ... ask a question and then answer it in the same post.

Feces = fiber, bacteria, toxins, water, and unrecovered bile.

Who says so? I do.
 >> Stay informed about: Excess Protein -- Fat or Feces?