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xmp333

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:36 pm
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Hi,


Although the Deadlift and Squat are performed differently, it looks
like they should hit the same muscle groups. So can I substitute one
for the other? I ask because I work out at home and don't have a
squat rack. I could do dumbbell squats, but they're even more like
the deadlifts.

Right now, here's my planned routine (HIT) to be done every 2 days:

Bench Press
Dead Lift/Squat
Shoulder Press
Renegade Rows
Weighted Crunches
Bicep Curls

Feedback appreciated.


Thanks in advance.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:36 pm
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<xmp333.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
>
> Although the Deadlift and Squat are performed differently, it looks
> like they should hit the same muscle groups. So can I substitute one
> for the other? I ask because I work out at home and don't have a
> squat rack. I could do dumbbell squats, but they're even more like
> the deadlifts.
>
> Right now, here's my planned routine (HIT) to be done every 2 days:
>
> Bench Press
> Dead Lift/Squat
> Shoulder Press
> Renegade Rows
> Weighted Crunches
> Bicep Curls
>
> Feedback appreciated.
>
>
> Thanks in advance.

Check out

http://danjohn.org/bp.pdf

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:46 am
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ATP* wrote:

> Check out
>
> http://danjohn.org/bp.pdf

Great stuff, thanks for posting this
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:16 am
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"223rem" <223rem DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> ATP* wrote:
>
>> Check out
>>
>> http://danjohn.org/bp.pdf
>
> Great stuff, thanks for posting this

He's been cited on this newsgroup before but I never really started reading
his stuff until I saw a recommendation on the Moynihan Institute website,
which I was reading mostly for the comedic value.

http://moynihaninstitute.com/

Another interesting site he mentions, started by Mark Twight:

http://www.gymjones.com/

Dan Jones seems to be a class act. He was involved in the Crossfit forum,
but the out of control ego of Greg Glassman ended that association.
Apparently Mark Twight is also persona non grata at Crossfit.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:25 am
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On Apr 1, 9:36 am, "ATP*" <waxwingsl....RemoveThis@azurepane.com> wrote:
> Check out
>
> http://danjohn.org/bp.pdf

Thanks! The section on using 2 sawhorses for a squat rack alone is
worth the entire book. The biggest reason I was thinking of the
Deadlift vs. Squat was because I didn't have a squat rack. You've
taken care of that one for me!

Thanks again.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:25 am
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<xmp333.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Apr 1, 9:36 am, "ATP*" <waxwingsl....DeleteThis@azurepane.com> wrote:
>> Check out
>>
>> http://danjohn.org/bp.pdf
>
> Thanks! The section on using 2 sawhorses for a squat rack alone is
> worth the entire book. The biggest reason I was thinking of the
> Deadlift vs. Squat was because I didn't have a squat rack. You've
> taken care of that one for me!
>
> Thanks again.
>
Let us know how it works out. I'm going to get back to more off the floor
stuff myself.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:10 pm
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On Apr 2, 5:20 am, "ATP*" <waxwingsl....DeleteThis@azurepane.com> wrote:
> <xmp....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message

[...]

> > Thanks! The section on using 2 sawhorses for a squat rack alone is
> > worth the entire book. The biggest reason I was thinking of the
> > Deadlift vs. Squat was because I didn't have a squat rack. You've
> > taken care of that one for me!

[...]

> Let us know how it works out. I'm going to get back to more off the floor
> stuff myself.

So far, it worked out well. I bought two adjustable sawhorses (Task
Force brand) for about $20 each at Lowe's. They're rated for 1,200
lbs, although they feel a bit wobbly. They go as high as 40", which
is just a bit higher than I am at my ideal squat, so it works out
well. I worked out with them today and was pleased. It was a bit
narrow, getting in there, but once I was in position, everything went
smoothly, and they kept me from going too low.

Let me know if you need any more info on this.


Take Care.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:46 pm
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"ATP*" <waxwingslain RemoveThis @azurepane.com> wrote:

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>"223rem" <223rem RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> ATP* wrote:
>>
>>> Check out
>>>
>>> http://danjohn.org/bp.pdf
>>
>> Great stuff, thanks for posting this
>
>He's been cited on this newsgroup before but I never really started reading
>his stuff until I saw a recommendation on the Moynihan Institute website,
>which I was reading mostly for the comedic value.
>
>http://moynihaninstitute.com/

Irongarm? I see it was rated a triple Furey. Wasn't Garm one of the
top cool guys on DragonDoor?
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:46 pm
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"JMW" <jmwilliams DeleteThis @enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote in message
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> "ATP*" <waxwingslain DeleteThis @azurepane.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"223rem" <223rem DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> ATP* wrote:
>>>
>>>> Check out
>>>>
>>>> http://danjohn.org/bp.pdf
>>>
>>> Great stuff, thanks for posting this
>>
>>He's been cited on this newsgroup before but I never really started
>>reading
>>his stuff until I saw a recommendation on the Moynihan Institute website,
>>which I was reading mostly for the comedic value.
>>
>>http://moynihaninstitute.com/
>
> Irongarm? I see it was rated a triple Furey. Wasn't Garm one of the
> top cool guys on DragonDoor?

Steve should know. I thought it was funny that the Moynihan guy retracted
almost e/g he said about Pavel. Pavel's lawyers must be good, or they had
some other way of getting to him.
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