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fj

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:13 pm
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Does anybody have a comment?

-fj

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:27 pm
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In article <dbe02i$o8r$1@gist.usc.edu>, "fj" <frank_z_j DeleteThis @NOThotmail.com>
wrote:

> Does anybody have a comment?
>
> -fj
>
>

Yeah...

I've noted that if I "cheat" on a ketogenic diet, my muscles swell up
and I make great strength gains. Wink

Providing I was strict about it for awhile.

It's interesting.
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Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:27 pm
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>
> Yeah...
>
> I've noted that if I "cheat" on a ketogenic diet, my muscles swell up
> and I make great strength gains. Wink
>
> Providing I was strict about it for awhile.
>
> It's interesting.
> --
> Om.

If you use CKD, the type of exercise should be a lot different than normal
workout exercise, right?

You have always keep in mind that you are doing certain excercise to deplete
glycogen so that you can establish ketosis, at Sunday(?)

Don't pass "Crossover point" when doing cardio so that you burn more fat
instead of comsuming glycogen.

Are those serious concerns when using CKD?

BTW, the main purpose for CKD is to reduce body fat according to my
understanding.

-fj
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:43 pm
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"fj" <frank_z_j.DeleteThis@NOThotmail.com> wrote:

>Does anybody have a comment?

Yes.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:57 pm
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In article <dbe5cf$p90$1@gist.usc.edu>, "fj" <frank_z_j RemoveThis @NOThotmail.com>
wrote:

> >
> > Yeah...
> >
> > I've noted that if I "cheat" on a ketogenic diet, my muscles swell up
> > and I make great strength gains. Wink
> >
> > Providing I was strict about it for awhile.
> >
> > It's interesting.
> > --
> > Om.
>
> If you use CKD, the type of exercise should be a lot different than normal
> workout exercise, right?
>
> You have always keep in mind that you are doing certain excercise to deplete
> glycogen so that you can establish ketosis, at Sunday(?)
>
> Don't pass "Crossover point" when doing cardio so that you burn more fat
> instead of comsuming glycogen.
>
> Are those serious concerns when using CKD?
>
> BTW, the main purpose for CKD is to reduce body fat according to my
> understanding.
>
> -fj
>
>

I use a low carb KD to burn the deposits of fat off my still obese ass
etc. Wink

Once in awhile I get sick to death of it and go to Taco Bell or Church's
Chicken depending on my mood.

When I do this, I gain 5 to 8 lbs. literally overnight and my lifting
ability is 10% or so above norm. It takes a week to lose the water
weight due to the sudden Glycogen (and sodium) storage.

When I cheat on my diet, I gain weight and strength and the strength
gains do not go down significantly when I behave myself and re-shed the
water/glycogen weight.

That's all I know. I don't do it on purpose, I'm just a normal human
being that gets sick of living on a "plan" once in awhile, but I take
note of what happens when I do it. Wink

Cheers!
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Om.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:47 pm
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"fj" <frank_z_j.TakeThisOut@NOThotmail.com> wrote:

>>
>> Yeah...
>>
>> I've noted that if I "cheat" on a ketogenic diet, my muscles swell up
>> and I make great strength gains. Wink
>>
>> Providing I was strict about it for awhile.
>>
>> It's interesting.
>> --
>> Om.
>
>If you use CKD, the type of exercise should be a lot different than normal
>workout exercise, right?

A lot? Why?

>You have always keep in mind that you are doing certain excercise to deplete
>glycogen so that you can establish ketosis, at Sunday(?)

Why?

>Don't pass "Crossover point" when doing cardio so that you burn more fat
>instead of comsuming glycogen.

How do you define "crossover point"?

>BTW, the main purpose for CKD is to reduce body fat according to my
>understanding.

Ostensibly, while minimizing net muscle protein loss. The evidence of
that is limited, though.

Keep in mind that the number one factor in any fat loss diet is
adherence. If you find that you can maintain a CKD without
significant variance from the program, it will probably work for you.
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