Counting calorie

"GaryG" <sorrynoemail DeleteThis @NOSPAMX.com> wrote in message
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> "fj" <fj DeleteThis @notSpam.com> wrote in message news:d596q1$96r$1@gist.usc.edu...
> > I usually know how much I should eat to feel comfortable. Fortunately I
> > don't have the desire for food. But I never know my base metabolism rate
> and
> > the EXACT calorie I take from food everyday. When I feel I need more
> energy
> > for my workout, I try to eat more.
> >
> > How do u guys count calorie? I hope you are not using scale.
> >
> > -fj
> >
>
> I use a program I've developed called "WeightWare" (www.WeightWare.com).
I
> developed it because I found calorie counting to be tedious and error
prone,
> and because "calories in" only represents one half of the energy balance
> equation.
>
> Instead of counting calories, WeightWare uses your recorded weight
history,
> along with some moderately advanced statistical analysis to calculate your
> current energy balance (i.e., your calorie deficit or surplus). I've found
> that this approach is much quicker and a lot easier than counting
calories,
> and because it's based on your actual weight history it's also more
> accurate.
>
> For you body builder types, it also allows you to track and graph body
> measurements, and your workouts.
>
> Sorry if this comes off as a bit spammy, but you *did* ask, and I do
believe
> in the program.
>
> --
> GG
> http://www.WeightWare.com
> Your Weight and Health Diary
>

Forgot to mention - there's a free, 30-day trial version available for
download from the website.

GG
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"fj" <fj.RemoveThis@notSpam.com> wrote in message news:d596q1$96r$1@gist.usc.edu...
>I usually know how much I should eat to feel comfortable. Fortunately I
> don't have the desire for food. But I never know my base metabolism rate
> and
> the EXACT calorie I take from food everyday. When I feel I need more
> energy
> for my workout, I try to eat more.
>
> How do u guys count calorie? I hope you are not using scale.
>
> -fj
>
>

I guess...32 inch Levis and a mirror.

Jim
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fj wrote:
> I usually know how much I should eat to feel comfortable. Fortunately I
> don't have the desire for food. But I never know my base metabolism rate and
> the EXACT calorie I take from food everyday. When I feel I need more energy
> for my workout, I try to eat more.

This work as long as it works. The problem here is that many people
continue eating the quantities they're used to despite activity level or
metabolism changes.

> How do u guys count calorie? I hope you are not using scale.

I measure portions and record them in www.Fitday.com. Yes, I use a food
scale for some portions that are measured in weight (4 ounces of
salmon). Sometimes I use measuring cups (a half cup of cottage cheese)
or count quantities (22 almonds) or estimate size (a cubic inch of
cheese, a small apple.)

I don't do this all the time, but I do it when my weight loss is stuck
and I suspect my calorie level is to blame (which is to say, whenever my
weight loss is stuck.) Just the act of measuring portion sizes will
jump start my weight loss and keep my portion size from creeping up.

What are you goals? Why do you care what your calorie count is?

Delenn
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"Delenn" <Delenn.TakeThisOut@whoever.com> wrote in message
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> fj wrote:
> > I usually know how much I should eat to feel comfortable. Fortunately I
> > don't have the desire for food. But I never know my base metabolism rate
and
> > the EXACT calorie I take from food everyday. When I feel I need more
energy
> > for my workout, I try to eat more.
>
> This work as long as it works. The problem here is that many people
> continue eating the quantities they're used to despite activity level or
> metabolism changes.
>
> > How do u guys count calorie? I hope you are not using scale.
>
> I measure portions and record them in www.Fitday.com. Yes, I use a food
> scale for some portions that are measured in weight (4 ounces of
> salmon). Sometimes I use measuring cups (a half cup of cottage cheese)
> or count quantities (22 almonds) or estimate size (a cubic inch of
> cheese, a small apple.)
>
> I don't do this all the time, but I do it when my weight loss is stuck
> and I suspect my calorie level is to blame (which is to say, whenever my
> weight loss is stuck.) Just the act of measuring portion sizes will
> jump start my weight loss and keep my portion size from creeping up.
>
> What are you goals? Why do you care what your calorie count is?
>
> Delenn

thanks for your reply

In some situation, it is hard to count calorie for example you cook salmon
with OIL and HONEY, and serve it with home-made DRESSING(maynaze, sour
cream...) plus some mesh patato etc. It's a complicated puzzle I just simply
give up.

Well, my goal is to lose weight and keep lean muscle. I want to trim BF to
8% or lower.
Now my body fat is around 10-12%. Again, it's just my best judgement. Check
this picture I look similar to '3/6/2003' picture. Well, a little better
than that. Is it around 10-12% body fat?
http://www.johnstonefitness.com/all/front/m.php

-fj
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> In some situation, it is hard to count calorie for example you cook salmon
> with OIL and HONEY, and serve it with home-made DRESSING(maynaze, sour
> cream...) plus some mesh patato etc. It's a complicated puzzle I just simply
> give up.

No, its not complicated. What is so hard about adding up all the
ingredients you use? If I cook a recipe that has several ingredients I
include them all in fitday and then just make a rough estimate of what
percentage I actually ate if not the whole thing and adjust accordingly.
So, if you cook a pound of salmon with a cup of oil and a cup of honey
and you only eat 1/2 of it then put 8 oz of salmon, 1/2 cup each of oil
and honey. What is so complicate about that? If this is too much for
you than maybe you have other problems to deal with?
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Quoting "fj":

>In some situation, it is hard to count calorie for example you cook salmon
>with OIL and HONEY, and serve it with home-made DRESSING(maynaze, sour
>cream...) plus some mesh patato etc. It's a complicated puzzle I just simply
>give up.

It's not that complicated. If you truly find it that challenging,
please report immediately to the nearest mulching center...

Seriously though, get a digital food scale with a zeroing function (so
you can quickly and easily add multiple items to one bowl/plate) and
use it in conjunction with Fitday. You should be able to purchase one
for around $30 US. If you don't like Fitday, then look up foods on
the USDA database and do your recording in a spreadsheet or notebook.

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/

[picture of someone, not fj]
>Is it around 10-12% body fat?

In my opinion, looks more like 15% +. No definition to speak of.
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"Suze" <suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious> wrote in message
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> Quoting "fj":
>
> >In some situation, it is hard to count calorie for example you cook
salmon
> >with OIL and HONEY, and serve it with home-made DRESSING(maynaze, sour
> >cream...) plus some mesh patato etc. It's a complicated puzzle I just
simply
> >give up.
>
> It's not that complicated. If you truly find it that challenging,
> please report immediately to the nearest mulching center...
>
> Seriously though, get a digital food scale with a zeroing function (so
> you can quickly and easily add multiple items to one bowl/plate) and
> use it in conjunction with Fitday. You should be able to purchase one
> for around $30 US. If you don't like Fitday, then look up foods on
> the USDA database and do your recording in a spreadsheet or notebook.
>
> http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/
>
> [picture of someone, not fj]
> >Is it around 10-12% body fat?
>
> In my opinion, looks more like 15% +. No definition to speak of.
>

Fair enough. Guess I'll get serious with numbers and start doing it. Thank
you.

What about the body fat of this one?
'1/1/2005'
http://www.johnstonefitness.com/all/front/m.php

-fj
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Quoting "fj":

>Fair enough. Guess I'll get serious with numbers and start doing it. Thank
>you.

Good man. If it's worth doing, it's worth taking the time to do
correctly.

>What about the body fat of this one?
>'1/1/2005'
>http://www.johnstonefitness.com/all/front/m.php

In my opinion, 11-13%.


Someone posted this to MFW a couple of months ago, and it sounded
'close enough' to me (for males) to save the descriptions (you'll have
to do a google search for the original source; I didn't save *that*).

*************
1. Full House = Over 20% bodyfat with no visible muscle definition.

2. Hard = Some muscle separation appears between delts and upper arm.
Abs are still not visible. Approx. bodyfat level = 15-19%

3. Cut = More muscle separation appears particularly in the chest and
back, outline of the abs begins to appear slightly. Approx. bodyfat
level = 12-14%

4. Defined = Muscle separations get deeper in the arms, chest, legs
and back, and abs appear when flexed. Approx. bodyfat level = 10-12%

5. Ripped = Abs are clearly visible all the time, vascularity in arms
is prominent, chest and back separation is obvious, and face is
starting to appear more angular. Condition can be held indefinitely.
Approximate bodyfat level = 7-9%

6. Shredded = Striations appear in large muscle groups when they are
flexed. Vascularity appears in lower abdomen and in the legs.
Condition can be held for several days with careful dieting.
Approximate bodyfat level = 5-7%

7. Sliced = Muscles and tendons begin to appear in the face when
chewing, striations appear everywhere and vascularity appears
everywhere. Bodyfat levels are close to 3% and subcutaneous water
levels are near 0. Condition can only be held for a few hours at a
time. Not a healthy condition to stay in due to lower water level.
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On Tue, 3 May 2005 17:59:45 -0700, "fj" <fj.TakeThisOut@notSpam.com> wrote in
misc.fitness.weights:

>I usually know how much I should eat to feel comfortable. Fortunately I
>don't have the desire for food. But I never know my base metabolism rate and
>the EXACT calorie I take from food everyday. When I feel I need more energy
>for my workout, I try to eat more.
>
>How do u guys count calorie? I hope you are not using scale.
>
I don't count calories, I use a scale. But I'm special (football
helmet, short bus kinda way...$1 to Lyle).
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> I don't count calories, I use a scale. But I'm special (football
> helmet, short bus kinda way...$1 to Lyle).
>

I didn't get u.
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In article <d596q1$96r$1@gist.usc.edu>, fj <fj.TakeThisOut@notSpam.com> wrote:
>I usually know how much I should eat to feel comfortable. Fortunately I
>don't have the desire for food. But I never know my base metabolism rate and
>the EXACT calorie I take from food everyday. When I feel I need more energy
>for my workout, I try to eat more.

If you want to lose weight, eat less. If you want to gain weight, eat
more.

You can make it a lot more complicated than that if you want, but you
don't have to.

Seth
--
"There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate" -- Will Brink
Except sushi rice, seaweed, and wasabi.
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In article <d596q1$96r$1@gist.usc.edu>, "fj" <fj.DeleteThis@notSpam.com> wrote:

> I usually know how much I should eat to feel comfortable. Fortunately I
> don't have the desire for food. But I never know my base metabolism rate and
> the EXACT calorie I take from food everyday. When I feel I need more energy
> for my workout, I try to eat more.
>
> How do u guys count calorie?

Little thing we call a calculator. Eating until you are comfortable is
not counting calories but a WAG on your part. If it works for you great,
but some people need to actually count their calories to gain to lose
weight.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/
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In article <d5bvfi$e22$1@reader1.panix.com>,
sethb RemoveThis @panix.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
> In article <d596q1$96r$1@gist.usc.edu>, fj <fj RemoveThis @notSpam.com> wrote:
>>I usually know how much I should eat to feel comfortable. Fortunately I
>>don't have the desire for food. But I never know my base metabolism rate and
>>the EXACT calorie I take from food everyday. When I feel I need more energy
>>for my workout, I try to eat more.
>
> If you want to lose weight, eat less. If you want to gain weight, eat
> more.

That's always pretty much worked for me--whether I was working out at
the time or not.

>
> You can make it a lot more complicated than that if you want, but you
> don't have to.

I don't know, perhaps some people do. Like some people "need"
weights or machines or whatever to work out.

For me, at this time, working out three times a week as I am, I find
myself hungry a goodly portion of my waking hours. I kind of think
about it, thinking about how much and what type of physical activity
I've put in lately and how much, and what, I've eaten lately, and
decide whether I really *need* more food. It seems to be working
for me. YMMV.

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