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Since: Dec 04, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:43 pm
Post subject: No Caffeine Before Exercising! HUH??
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According to Nov 2006 "Consumers Reports On Health," a study found
that when healthy people exercised after ingesting 200 mg of
caffeine--about two coffee cups' worth-- blood flow to their hearts
decreased by 22% (39% when breathing oxygen-deprived air that
simulated high altitude or the degenerative effects of heart disease).
The study's lead researcher said that people with heart disease who
consume 200 mg of more probably should not exercise for at least five
hours, the time it takes for about half the caffeine to leave the
bloodstream.
WTF?? What about people without signs of CV disease??
Hell, I purposely use caffeine as a boost to begin exercise, not from
coffee, but from three diet Dr. Peppers, a total of about 125 mg. |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:43 pm
Post subject: Re: No Caffeine Before Exercising! HUH?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Jack wrote:
> According to Nov 2006 "Consumers Reports On Health," a study found
> that when healthy people exercised after ingesting 200 mg of
> caffeine--about two coffee cups' worth-- blood flow to their hearts
> decreased by 22% (39% when breathing oxygen-deprived air that
> simulated high altitude or the degenerative effects of heart disease).
> The study's lead researcher said that people with heart disease who
> consume 200 mg of more probably should not exercise for at least five
> hours, the time it takes for about half the caffeine to leave the
> bloodstream.
>
> WTF?? What about people without signs of CV disease??
>
> Hell, I purposely use caffeine as a boost to begin exercise, not from
> coffee, but from three diet Dr. Peppers, a total of about 125 mg.
I believe what they are trying to get across, is that if your blood
flow decreases by 22%, or more, you will be getting a "lower"
cardiovascular workout.
Without reading the report, I would want to know if they had sugar in
the coffee?
Also different people have different physiology, so you might have very
little (or no) CV lessening.
A relatively sure way to tell, is do one exercise set on three
different days, use caffine before hand, and take your blood pressure
and pulse. Average them together, then do the same without caffine ,
and compare the results. |
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Since: Nov 02, 2006
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:43 pm
Post subject: Re: No Caffeine Before Exercising! HUH?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Jack wrote:
> On 29 Oct 2006 08:30:46 -0800, TheAmazingGuffy DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
>
> >
> >Jack wrote:
> >> According to Nov 2006 "Consumers Reports On Health," a study found
> >> that when healthy people exercised after ingesting 200 mg of
> >> caffeine--about two coffee cups' worth-- blood flow to their hearts
> >> decreased by 22% (39% when breathing oxygen-deprived air that
> >> simulated high altitude or the degenerative effects of heart disease).
> >> The study's lead researcher said that people with heart disease who
> >> consume 200 mg of more probably should not exercise for at least five
> >> hours, the time it takes for about half the caffeine to leave the
> >> bloodstream.
> >>
> >> WTF?? What about people without signs of CV disease??
> >>
> >> Hell, I purposely use caffeine as a boost to begin exercise, not from
> >> coffee, but from three diet Dr. Peppers, a total of about 125 mg.
> >
> >I believe what they are trying to get across, is that if your blood
> >flow decreases by 22%, or more, you will be getting a "lower"
> >cardiovascular workout.
> >
> >Without reading the report, I would want to know if they had sugar in
> >the coffee?
>
> They used caffeine tablets, 200 mg., and then sent to exercise.
>
> >Also different people have different physiology, so you might have very
> >little (or no) CV lessening.
> >A relatively sure way to tell, is do one exercise set on three
> >different days, use caffine before hand, and take your blood pressure
> >and pulse. Average them together, then do the same without caffine ,
> >and compare the results.
>
> In the 50s, many in the medical community believed that caffeine was a
> risk factor in CHD. In recent years, this belief has been considered
> a myth, but then along comes this study.
Did they consider it a risk factor for the cause of CHD, or a risk
factor for an event in CHD?
This study shows it is likely to be a risk factor for an event. So it
might not be a risk factor for a cause of CHD. >> Stay informed about: No Caffeine Before Exercising! HUH?? |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:37 pm
Post subject: Re: No Caffeine Before Exercising! HUH?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Jack wrote:
> On 29 Oct 2006 16:33:13 -0800, TheAmazingGuffy DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
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> >
> >Jack wrote:
> >> On 29 Oct 2006 08:30:46 -0800, TheAmazingGuffy DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Jack wrote:
> >> >> According to Nov 2006 "Consumers Reports On Health," a study found
> >> >> that when healthy people exercised after ingesting 200 mg of
> >> >> caffeine--about two coffee cups' worth-- blood flow to their hearts
> >> >> decreased by 22% (39% when breathing oxygen-deprived air that
> >> >> simulated high altitude or the degenerative effects of heart disease).
> >> >> The study's lead researcher said that people with heart disease who
> >> >> consume 200 mg of more probably should not exercise for at least five
> >> >> hours, the time it takes for about half the caffeine to leave the
> >> >> bloodstream.
> >> >>
> >> >> WTF?? What about people without signs of CV disease??
> >> >>
> >> >> Hell, I purposely use caffeine as a boost to begin exercise, not from
> >> >> coffee, but from three diet Dr. Peppers, a total of about 125 mg.
> >> >
> >> >I believe what they are trying to get across, is that if your blood
> >> >flow decreases by 22%, or more, you will be getting a "lower"
> >> >cardiovascular workout.
> >> >
> >> >Without reading the report, I would want to know if they had sugar in
> >> >the coffee?
> >>
> >> They used caffeine tablets, 200 mg., and then sent to exercise.
> >>
> >> >Also different people have different physiology, so you might have very
> >> >little (or no) CV lessening.
> >> >A relatively sure way to tell, is do one exercise set on three
> >> >different days, use caffine before hand, and take your blood pressure
> >> >and pulse. Average them together, then do the same without caffine ,
> >> >and compare the results.
> >>
> >> In the 50s, many in the medical community believed that caffeine was a
> >> risk factor in CHD. In recent years, this belief has been considered
> >> a myth, but then along comes this study.
> >
> >Did they consider it a risk factor for the cause of CHD, or a risk
> >factor for an event in CHD?
> >
> >This study shows it is likely to be a risk factor for an event. So it
> >might not be a risk factor for a cause of CHD.
>
> Doctor to my father, circa 1957: "You keep drinking those 21 cups of
> coffee a day, you'll have a heart attack before you're 40!!!"
Well if he were drinking 21 cups a day I think the lack of sleep would
have killed him long before a heart attack would.....  >> Stay informed about: No Caffeine Before Exercising! HUH?? |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:48 am
Post subject: Re: No Caffeine Before Exercising! HUH?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 29 Oct 2006 08:30:46 -0800, TheAmazingGuffy DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
>
>Jack wrote:
>> According to Nov 2006 "Consumers Reports On Health," a study found
>> that when healthy people exercised after ingesting 200 mg of
>> caffeine--about two coffee cups' worth-- blood flow to their hearts
>> decreased by 22% (39% when breathing oxygen-deprived air that
>> simulated high altitude or the degenerative effects of heart disease).
>> The study's lead researcher said that people with heart disease who
>> consume 200 mg of more probably should not exercise for at least five
>> hours, the time it takes for about half the caffeine to leave the
>> bloodstream.
>>
>> WTF?? What about people without signs of CV disease??
>>
>> Hell, I purposely use caffeine as a boost to begin exercise, not from
>> coffee, but from three diet Dr. Peppers, a total of about 125 mg.
>
>I believe what they are trying to get across, is that if your blood
>flow decreases by 22%, or more, you will be getting a "lower"
>cardiovascular workout.
>
>Without reading the report, I would want to know if they had sugar in
>the coffee?
They used caffeine tablets, 200 mg., and then sent to exercise.
>Also different people have different physiology, so you might have very
>little (or no) CV lessening.
>A relatively sure way to tell, is do one exercise set on three
>different days, use caffine before hand, and take your blood pressure
>and pulse. Average them together, then do the same without caffine ,
>and compare the results.
In the 50s, many in the medical community believed that caffeine was a
risk factor in CHD. In recent years, this belief has been considered
a myth, but then along comes this study. >> Stay informed about: No Caffeine Before Exercising! HUH?? |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:52 am
Post subject: Re: No Caffeine Before Exercising! HUH?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 29 Oct 2006 16:33:13 -0800, TheAmazingGuffy.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
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>Jack wrote:
>> On 29 Oct 2006 08:30:46 -0800, TheAmazingGuffy.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Jack wrote:
>> >> According to Nov 2006 "Consumers Reports On Health," a study found
>> >> that when healthy people exercised after ingesting 200 mg of
>> >> caffeine--about two coffee cups' worth-- blood flow to their hearts
>> >> decreased by 22% (39% when breathing oxygen-deprived air that
>> >> simulated high altitude or the degenerative effects of heart disease).
>> >> The study's lead researcher said that people with heart disease who
>> >> consume 200 mg of more probably should not exercise for at least five
>> >> hours, the time it takes for about half the caffeine to leave the
>> >> bloodstream.
>> >>
>> >> WTF?? What about people without signs of CV disease??
>> >>
>> >> Hell, I purposely use caffeine as a boost to begin exercise, not from
>> >> coffee, but from three diet Dr. Peppers, a total of about 125 mg.
>> >
>> >I believe what they are trying to get across, is that if your blood
>> >flow decreases by 22%, or more, you will be getting a "lower"
>> >cardiovascular workout.
>> >
>> >Without reading the report, I would want to know if they had sugar in
>> >the coffee?
>>
>> They used caffeine tablets, 200 mg., and then sent to exercise.
>>
>> >Also different people have different physiology, so you might have very
>> >little (or no) CV lessening.
>> >A relatively sure way to tell, is do one exercise set on three
>> >different days, use caffine before hand, and take your blood pressure
>> >and pulse. Average them together, then do the same without caffine ,
>> >and compare the results.
>>
>> In the 50s, many in the medical community believed that caffeine was a
>> risk factor in CHD. In recent years, this belief has been considered
>> a myth, but then along comes this study.
>
>Did they consider it a risk factor for the cause of CHD, or a risk
>factor for an event in CHD?
>
>This study shows it is likely to be a risk factor for an event. So it
>might not be a risk factor for a cause of CHD.
Doctor to my father, circa 1957: "You keep drinking those 21 cups of
coffee a day, you'll have a heart attack before you're 40!!!" >> Stay informed about: No Caffeine Before Exercising! HUH?? |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:59 pm
Post subject: Re: No Caffeine Before Exercising! HUH?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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3 Diet Dr. Peppers is seriously not the way to go about preping
yourself for a workout. The sugar intake will immediately spike your
insulin levels and you will crash after a measly 30-40 minutes. I
would suggest taking a look at some different products if you need some
energy for your workouts. I actually distribute a few---awesome stuff
in my opinion, of course, I am bias--but anyways, if you want to check
any out just let me know.
Annie
On Oct 29, 7:43 am, windsw....TakeThisOut@home.net (Jack) wrote:
> According to Nov 2006 "Consumers Reports On Health," a study found
> that when healthy people exercised after ingesting 200 mg of
> caffeine--about two coffee cups' worth-- blood flow to their hearts
> decreased by 22% (39% when breathing oxygen-deprived air that
> simulated high altitude or the degenerative effects of heart disease).
> The study's lead researcher said that people with heart disease who
> consume 200 mg of more probably should not exercise for at least five
> hours, the time it takes for about half the caffeine to leave the
> bloodstream.
>
> WTF?? What about people without signs of CV disease??
>
> Hell, I purposely use caffeine as a boost to begin exercise, not from
> coffee, but from three diet Dr. Peppers, a total of about 125 mg. >> Stay informed about: No Caffeine Before Exercising! HUH?? |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:47 pm
Post subject: Re: No Caffeine Before Exercising! HUH?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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schroeder.annie.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
> 3 Diet Dr. Peppers is seriously not the way to go about preping
> yourself for a workout. The sugar intake will immediately spike your
> insulin levels and you will crash after a measly 30-40 minutes. I
> would suggest taking a look at some different products if you need some
> energy for your workouts. I actually distribute a few---awesome stuff
> in my opinion, of course, I am bias--but anyways, if you want to check
> any out just let me know.
>
> Annie
>
> On Oct 29, 7:43 am, windsw....TakeThisOut@home.net (Jack) wrote:
>
>>According to Nov 2006 "Consumers Reports On Health," a study found
>>that when healthy people exercised after ingesting 200 mg of
>>caffeine--about two coffee cups' worth-- blood flow to their hearts
>>decreased by 22% (39% when breathing oxygen-deprived air that
>>simulated high altitude or the degenerative effects of heart disease).
>>The study's lead researcher said that people with heart disease who
>>consume 200 mg of more probably should not exercise for at least five
>>hours, the time it takes for about half the caffeine to leave the
>>bloodstream.
>>
>>WTF?? What about people without signs of CV disease??
>>
>>Hell, I purposely use caffeine as a boost to begin exercise, not from
>>coffee, but from three diet Dr. Peppers, a total of about 125 mg.
>
>
no sugar in diet doctor pepper. Sorry.
--
Del Cecchi
"This post is my own and doesn’t necessarily represent IBM’s positions,
strategies or opinions.” >> Stay informed about: No Caffeine Before Exercising! HUH?? |
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