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Since: Apr 30, 2005 Posts: 22
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 9:04 am
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| .... by doing at least some cardio or can it be done with calorie reduction
alone? Maybe a better question to ask is what is the absolute best way to
burn fat while maintaining as much hard... and I mean HARD... earned muscle
as possible? I know, I know, this must be the very first time this has been
discussed here.
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Since: Apr 13, 2005 Posts: 45
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 11:07 am
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Any form of cardio that appeals to you enough to get you to stay with
it 6 days a week, 20 minutes continuously at a minumum-running's one of
the best, elliptical, stairmachine, etc.
You could lose by calorie reduction exclusively, but you won't see the
same firmness in the muscles, nor the health benefits accrued to the
heart and body through exercise. >> Stay informed about: Does One Need To "Burn" Fat |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 2:45 pm
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On 17 Apr 2005 08:07:30 -0700, "analogbass" <zeotroppe.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote
in misc.fitness.weights:
>Any form of cardio that appeals to you enough to get you to stay with
>it 6 days a week, 20 minutes continuously at a minumum-running's one of
>the best, elliptical, stairmachine, etc.
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>You could lose by calorie reduction exclusively, but you won't see the
>same firmness in the muscles, nor the health benefits accrued to the
>heart and body through exercise.
What if you did anaerobic weight training while reducing your caloric
intake. Would you not have muscle firmness then? >> Stay informed about: Does One Need To "Burn" Fat |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 11:35 pm
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"John Hanson" <jhanson DeleteThis @northernlinks.com> wrote in message
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> On 17 Apr 2005 08:07:30 -0700, "analogbass" <zeotroppe DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote
> in misc.fitness.weights:
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>>Any form of cardio that appeals to you enough to get you to stay with
>>it 6 days a week, 20 minutes continuously at a minumum-running's one of
>>the best, elliptical, stairmachine, etc.
>>
>>You could lose by calorie reduction exclusively, but you won't see the
>>same firmness in the muscles, nor the health benefits accrued to the
>>heart and body through exercise.
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> What if you did anaerobic weight training while reducing your caloric
> intake. Would you not have muscle firmness then?
from what I have read, the closer you are to being in shape, the method you
have described is ideal. High intensity, that is a high percentage of 1 rm,
and caloric restriction. The bulk of the calories taken in shortly after a
training session. >> Stay informed about: Does One Need To "Burn" Fat |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:59 am
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John Hanson wrote:
> On 17 Apr 2005 08:07:30 -0700, "analogbass" <zeotroppe RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote
> in misc.fitness.weights:
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>> Any form of cardio that appeals to you enough to get you to stay with
>> it 6 days a week, 20 minutes continuously at a minumum-running's one
>> of the best, elliptical, stairmachine, etc.
>>
>> You could lose by calorie reduction exclusively, but you won't see
>> the same firmness in the muscles, nor the health benefits accrued to
>> the heart and body through exercise.
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> What if you did anaerobic weight training while reducing your caloric
> intake. Would you not have muscle firmness then?
Dude, you're going to question the Warm-Up Kid? He speaks with such
authority and certainty, it simply must be true.
Don't expect a response.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:29 am
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"Tha Woyah" <thawoyah DeleteThis @everyactionhasanequalandoppositereaction.com> wrote
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> ... by doing at least some cardio or can it be done with calorie
> reduction alone? Maybe a better question to ask is what is the absolute
> best way to burn fat while maintaining as much hard... and I mean
> HARD... earned muscle as possible? I know, I know, this must be the very
> first time this has been discussed here.
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>
You need to do cardio to mobilize that stubborn fat.
Hugh
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:29 am
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"Hugh Beyer" <beyerxyzzy DeleteThis @acm.org> wrote in message
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> "Tha Woyah" <thawoyah DeleteThis @everyactionhasanequalandoppositereaction.com> wrote
> in news:ywq8e.11645$oc.11812888@news.sisna.com:
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>> ... by doing at least some cardio or can it be done with calorie
>> reduction alone? Maybe a better question to ask is what is the absolute
>> best way to burn fat while maintaining as much hard... and I mean
>> HARD... earned muscle as possible? I know, I know, this must be the very
>> first time this has been discussed here.
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> You need to do cardio to mobilize that stubborn fat.
Mobilize it? >> Stay informed about: Does One Need To "Burn" Fat |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:29 am
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"Tha Woyah" <thawoyah RemoveThis @everyactionhasanequalandoppositereaction.com> wrote in
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> "Hugh Beyer" <beyerxyzzy RemoveThis @acm.org> wrote in message
> news:Xns963BD00C171D0hughrbeyeracmorg@130.81.64.196...
>> "Tha Woyah" <thawoyah RemoveThis @everyactionhasanequalandoppositereaction.com> wrote
>> in news:ywq8e.11645$oc.11812888@news.sisna.com:
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>>> ... by doing at least some cardio or can it be done with calorie
>>> reduction alone? Maybe a better question to ask is what is the absolute
>>> best way to burn fat while maintaining as much hard... and I mean
>>> HARD... earned muscle as possible? I know, I know, this must be the very
>>> first time this has been discussed here.
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>> You need to do cardio to mobilize that stubborn fat.
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> Mobilize it?
No idea what mobilizing fat means (unless it refers to taking your
fat for a jog). But calorie reduction alone will get rid of fat, but it
will also reduce your muscle (which you can slow but not stop
by lifting while you diet). For most people (ie not into a specific
sport or body building), the best approach is a combination of
all three...lifting, cardio and intelligent dieting. If you absolutely
don't want to lose muscle while you lose fat, you're going to have
to go for a slow reduction, where your calorie deficit is just
under maintenance, so your body doesn't canabalize your
muscles.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 4:58 am
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Yes, how does one mobilize fat. I was under the impression that whether you
ran 3 miles in 15 minutes, or you took a leisurely 3 mile stroll in an hour,
it still burns around the same number of calories.
"Hugh Beyer" <beyerxyzzy.TakeThisOut@acm.org> wrote in message
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> "Tha Woyah" <thawoyah.TakeThisOut@everyactionhasanequalandoppositereaction.com> wrote
> in news:ywq8e.11645$oc.11812888@news.sisna.com:
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>> ... by doing at least some cardio or can it be done with calorie
>> reduction alone? Maybe a better question to ask is what is the absolute
>> best way to burn fat while maintaining as much hard... and I mean
>> HARD... earned muscle as possible? I know, I know, this must be the very
>> first time this has been discussed here.
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> You need to do cardio to mobilize that stubborn fat.
>
> Hugh
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:43 am
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:50 am
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Adding cardio will accelerate fat-burning and toning, plus anaerobic by
itself won't help the heart. Could still lose and firm by calorie
reduction and weights.
I prefer the Cardio Kid. Can't help it if i know what i'm talking
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:56 am
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It does, but the level of intensity correlates to efficiency of
fat-burn, plus the nature and intensity differences in walking and
running affect different muscles.
Adding cardio accelerates fat-burning and toning and improves the
metabolism. Anaerobic can still tone if coupled with calorie reduction,
but won't help the heart. >> Stay informed about: Does One Need To "Burn" Fat |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:11 am
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Walking or running will cause the same calorie loss, but at different
rates, plus the different nature of the movement and intensity affects
which muscles are used.
Adding cardio accelerates fat-burning and toning and improves the
metabolism. Anaerobic will still tone, coupled with calorie reduction,
but won't create as high a level of overall fitness or help the heart
as aerobic exercise will. >> Stay informed about: Does One Need To "Burn" Fat |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:44 am
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:04 pm
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