Bowflex Owners Keep Dogs Imprisoned

David Cohen wrote:

> "Dally" <Dally DeleteThis @myself.com> wrote in message
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>>This train of thought has reminded me of my grandmother's guard dog. It
>>was a mean old German shepherd that I was scared to death of. It was
>>chained to a stake and the circle it had for a run (including the dog
>>house) was swept to bear dirt from pacing. No one ever had a kind word or
>>a warm hearth for that dog.
>
>
> Is Grandma dead yet? Lee and I can add her to our death wish list, if not.

No, but she hasn't owned a dog in many years.

See, that's part of what she lost out on. She doesn't realize what a
good companion they can be. That dog lost out on a decent 12-year life,
but she lost out on 80 years of dog-friendship.

>>Maybe chained/penned/imprisoned dogs are more common than I know.
>
>
> Evil, sadistic, owners, and the enablers in their lives who keep them as
> friends and try to justify their sick, demented, behavior.

No, don't be coy, tell us what you REALLY think!

Dally
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Dally <Dally DeleteThis @myself.com> wrote:

re cats that aren't spayed or neutered (and the consequent destruction
of THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE)

<snip>
>Otherwise they eat the bird population, increasing the bug
>population, which eats the crops. And they cats feed
>the coyote population which then increases predatory
>pests to livestock.

IIIIIT'S THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT!!!!!

>Who doesn't KNOW this stuff?

Uh...

(AND I FEEEL FIIIIIIINE!!!!!)

>I told her to catch as many of the barn cats as she could
>and DROWN THEM while they were still catchable, i.e.,
>when they were cute kittens.

Maybe she'll get some slow-developing but insanely painful cancer.

(look Cohen)

>After this conversation I seriously started wondering if
>I was turning Republican.

Ouch.

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Curt James wrote:

> Dally <Dally RemoveThis @myself.com> wrote:
>
> <snip... because HOLY CRAP YOU WRITE A LOT!>

Heh. You sound like Queenie. If you don't want to read me, don't read
me. Look to Cohen as an example... he was even courteous enough to
MENTION that he wasn't going to read me as I drone on.

>>And if the dog IS endangered by something, I want her off-leash so she
>>can get away.
>
> http://www.flexiusa.com/

Snort. Ever use these? I have one. I principally like it because we
can use it as a tie-out if we have to tie her to the camper or something
when we're camping. But if we're out walking and she meets up with
another leashed dog and they get into it, this sort of leash becomes a
garrotte and we have scars on our legs to prove it.

We much prefer a one-inch woven leash. If she has to be leashed then
it's probably a good idea for her to be on a heel as well, and the 5'
leash is plenty long enough. It's also lightweight and I wrap it around
my waist when we're running, only using it when we're walking to or from
the park. (My "park" is a state nature reserve, i.e., woods with 17
miles of trails that I rarely see another person on.)

Dally
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Dally <Dally.RemoveThis@myself.com> wrote:

>Curt James wrote:
>
>> Dally <Dally.RemoveThis@myself.com> wrote:
>>
>> <snip... because HOLY CRAP YOU WRITE A LOT!>
>
>Heh. You sound like Queenie.

Oh, you cut me to the quick! Vicious.

>If you don't want to read me, don't read me.

Don't get defensive. I was stating a fact and it was meant to be
perceived as humor. That's the danger in humor and, especially, in
text. Interpretation, misinterpretation, yadayada.

Anyway. I skim. If something catches my eye, I'll read. If something's
especially interesting, I'll reread.

re http://www.flexiusa.com/

>Snort. Ever use these? I have one. I principally like it because we
>can use it as a tie-out if we have to tie her to the camper or something
>when we're camping. But if we're out walking and she meets up with
>another leashed dog and they get into it, this sort of leash becomes a
>garrotte and we have scars on our legs to prove it.

Scars? You lie.

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"John Hanson" wrote
>
> Buddy also is never crated or penned. He has free roam of the house
> and hasn't destroyed anything since he was a pup. He usually just
> sleeps at the top of the stairs while we are away or in his recliner
> in the family room (he has his own chair:-).
>
His own chair??

Does Buddy have his own TV too?


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On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:59:29 -0500, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

>
>"John Hanson" wrote
>>
>> Buddy also is never crated or penned. He has free roam of the house
>> and hasn't destroyed anything since he was a pup. He usually just
>> sleeps at the top of the stairs while we are away or in his recliner
>> in the family room (he has his own chair:-).
>>
>His own chair??
>
>Does Buddy have his own TV too?
>
>
>
Well, it's a chair that ought to be thrown out but he likes it so we
keep it.
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"Curt James" <cwj111.RemoveThis@psu.edu> wrote in message
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> David <forgotwhy.RemoveThis@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>>"Dally" <Dally.RemoveThis@myself.com> wrote
>
> and wrote and wrote and wrote...
>
>>> Well, I'm back, and there are two traumatic items to note.
>
> <snip five THOUSAND lines of text about dogs, pens, and a dusty
> bowflex machine>
>
>>That's an awfully long post Dilly. Can you please get to the point
>>as I have to be somewhere this weekend.
>
> This may seem like another mutual appreciation moment, but what the
> hell. David, I'm not an easy laugh, but that had me barking (no pun
> intended) with laughter. Thanks for the gut-buster.

Ha ha! (well that's why I'm a troll enabler)

[.....]
>
> You're part of the problem as it stands now.

Exactly. Whether they are friends or not she has a duty to tell them if
they are mistreating their animals.
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"Dally" <Dally DeleteThis @myself.com> wrote
>
> (What my friends consider "endangering" is attractive smells that the
> dogs would investigate, thereby running off with some risk of never being
> found again.)
>
Maybe Mr Cohen can help me with this one.

It is my understanding that the dog brain has a large portion of itself
dedicated to the sense of smell. One of the reasons you take a dog for
walks is to allow that portion of the brain to be exercised. A dog who goes
out and smells things on a regular basis is neurologically healthier than
dogs who just lay around at home or are penned and crated all the time.

Therefore, the dog mistreatment and delusions that your friends share are
causing DOGGIE BRAIN DAMAGE!!

Not that anybody seems to care. Perhaps they want to make the dog's brains
as damaged as their own.

Or something.
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Hugh Beyer wrote:

> Dally's friends are treating their dogs like a betta,
> and that's not okay.

Actually, they're being treated like their cocketiels.

HTH.

Dally
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Hugh Beyer <beyerxyzzy.DeleteThis@acm.org> wrote:

>John Hanson <jhanson.DeleteThis@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>
>> Dally <Dally.DeleteThis@myself.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I think we're evaluating risk differently. In other words, this is
>>>coming down to a parenting difference.
>>
>> Buddy also is never crated or penned. He has free roam of the house
>> and hasn't destroyed anything since he was a pup. He usually just
>> sleeps at the top of the stairs while we are away or in his recliner
>> in the family room (he has his own chair:-).
>
>Ditto with our spaniel. If the dog's destroying things, it's a symptom of
>a larger problem.

Exactly. It's usually a combination of boredom and the dog's
resentment that you're not paying attention to him/her. Captive
wolves and wolf-hybrids are particularly prone to destroying property
because of that. People who don't pay attention to their canines are
just asking for this to happen, at least while the canines are fairly
young. Constant crating/kenneling away from other dogs and humans
will easily create this problem.
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"Dally" <Dally.RemoveThis@myself.com> wrote in message
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> Curt James wrote:
>
>> BUT, Pebbles was eventually run over by a tractor, so there's
>> something to be said for leashes, too.
>
> Our current cat is an indoor cat. He's our first one like that - I grew
> up on a farm and the cats were mostly allowed to roam free. But I live in
> town now and just decided to keep this one in. Probably because I got to
> save some money on shots if I promised to keep it indoors when I adopted
> him from the shelter. (Cohen isn't the only cheap bastard Jew around
> here.)
>
> I don't feel like it's abusive to keep that cat indoors, although he'd
> love to get out there and mess with the squirrels or birds he keeps
> watching.
>
> Would anyone else think it was abusive to keep a cat indoors? So why is
> it abusive to keep a dog indoors?
>
>>>What if one were so wild it wouldn't come when you called it and kept
>>>trying to zoom through doors to get outside, would you confine it then,
>>>for its own safety?
>>>
>>>What if two dogs kept tearing at each other, hurting each other - would
>>>you confine them to separate them?
>>
>>
>> NOT TO MENTION TRACTORS!
>>
>> Ahem.
>>
>> But didn't you say that training would /cure/ all that nonsense?
>
> Maybe. It's hard to train them to avoid tractors, since there is such a
> destructive learning curve.
>
>>>So that leaves indoor issues. Curt mentioned people crating during the
>>>day while they're at work: a pen is larger than a crate and they aren't
>>>away for 10 hours stretches, so doesn't that make it humane?
>>
>>
>> Well, to be honest, the cage/pen/crate wasn't all that big.
>
> Did you feel like it was abusive?
>
> Personally, I don't mind crates. My dog was crate-trained as a puppy and
> she seems to like her crate. It's her den.
>
> Honestly, she doesn't walk around a lot during my work day. She just
> stays in the same spot watching out the window in case the mailman might
> come. Then she barks, he turns and leaves, and she's had another
> successful day.

Sounds like a particularly well trained dog to me
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Dally wrote:

> These are really nice, smart, well-meaning people. They think they're
> being wonderful to their dogs, and think I'm being abusive to mine by
> letting her off-leash, feeding her dry (Cohen-approved) kibble, and
> letting her have raw hide bones.

People who abuse children think the same things. Get new friends before
they find the bodies and the underground dungeon in the woods.




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Ari <spodosaurus DeleteThis @_yahoo_.com> wrote:

>People who abuse children think the same things.
>Get new friends before they find the bodies and
>the underground dungeon in the woods.

Cut back on the crime dramas, pal.

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