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On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Curt wrote:

> smokejo wrote:
>
>> <snip> mentioned to do bench presses on the ball <snip> how exactly is
>> this done? Do you lay on the ball and bench press?
>
> FORGET exercise ball benching. Just use a regular bench.

That's good advice - if you have a bench!

tom

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"Shute" <Shute DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote
> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
>>"Curt" <curtjames DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote
>>> Cohen wrote:
>>>> "Bully" wrote
>>>> > "Shute" wrote
>>>> >> "Bully" wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> >>>> You mean pushups?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> No, in English, they are, always have been,
>>>> >>> and hopefully always will be press-ups!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Not in American English.
>>>> >
>>>> > What's your point?
>>>>
>>>> That Unitedstatesofamericanese is the more perfected,
>>>> more highly evolved, form of English.
>>>
>>> That's unpossible!
>>
>>I don't think that that is undeniably not adisunimpossible.
>>
>>But, a moot point, anyway, as Unitedstatesofamericanese will soon be
>>replaced by Ebonospanglish.
>
> Trouble with ebonics is it keeps changing. As soon as the white
> folks figure out what they are saying new words emerge to replace
> them.

It continually evolves, which makes it superior.

> Did you ever see the movie Airplane? I was watching this show and
> they where talking about a clip in that where no one can understand
> what the two black guys are saying. They even had a translation
> scroll on the screen. That was way back before ebonics really kicked
> in.

That was "real" ebonics, with some cultural heritage, before the wiggers
like Mr Britney Spears got ahold of it.

I still can't figure out technogamergeekspeak, but, unlike Ebonospanglish,
it's a short term fad.

David
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Tom Anderson wrote:
> Curt wrote:
> > Tom Anderson wrote:
> >> Curt wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> >>> FORGET exercise ball benching. Just use
> >>> a regular bench.
> >>
> >> That's good advice - if you have a bench!
> >
> > But which would be more likely to be found in a
> > home? An exercise ball or a sturdy flat surface?
>
> I don't have a surface i could use to bench press in
> my house. Or in any house i've lived in.

Certainly there's the floor.

Granted, I don't bench a hell of a lot. ;o)

> > My first bench was a picnic bench.
>
> When you say 'picnic bench', i imagine something
> like this:
> http://www.1st-for-furniture.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/261_.../produc

> Is that right?

Well, I won't argue with your imagination, however, no, that's not what
I meant.

When I was a kid we had a picnic table with separate (detached)
benches.

> I don't see how you could bench on that unless
> your back's about four feet across!

Five, actually. I'm HYOOOG!

What's that? /Imaginary/ lats don't count? Never mind.

> > Iirc, I sometimes put a folded towel down for some
> > padding. And people have been known to bench on
> > the floor.
>
> Putting their elbows where?

Outside the box, Anderson. OUTSIDE the box!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/curt_james/MFW/bpholes.jpg

> I guess you could do partial ROM benches like this
> quite happily.

Otoh, some people are NEVER happy. Thankfully, that's not me.

> > I, for one (being ultimately uncoordinated and
> > certainly doomed to roll immediately off of any
> > exercise ball), would absolutely fill a cardboard
> > box with magazines and then drape that folded
> > bath towel on top for needed padding as my
> > makeshift bench before I'd risk rolling sidewise
> > off an inflated globe.
>
> Not a bad idea, actually.

That's why my middle name is Vincegironda.

> tom

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On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Curt wrote:

> Tom Anderson wrote:
>> Curt wrote:
> [...]
>
>>> FORGET exercise ball benching. Just use a regular bench.
>>
>> That's good advice - if you have a bench!
>
> But which would be more likely to be found in a home? An exercise ball
> or a sturdy flat surface?

I don't have a surface i could use to bench press in my house. Or in any
house i've lived in.

> My first bench was a picnic bench.

When you say 'picnic bench', i imagine something like this:

http://www.1st-for-furniture.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/261_.../produc

Is that right? I don't see how you could bench on that unless your
back's about four feet across!

> Iirc, I sometimes put a folded towel down for some padding. And people
> have been known to bench on the floor.

Putting their elbows where? I guess you could do partial ROM benches like
this quite happily.

> I, for one (being ultimately uncoordinated and certainly doomed to roll
> immediately off of any exercise ball), would absolutely fill a cardboard
> box with magazines and then drape that folded bath towel on top for
> needed padding as my makeshift bench before I'd risk rolling sidewise
> off an inflated globe.

Not a bad idea, actually.

tom

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Tom Anderson wrote:
[...]

> A ball's going to be smaller and cheaper than a bench.

A bench's going to be more utilitarian (for sitting, for benching, as a
coffee table) and safer (imagine I wouldn't roll off that bench) than a
ball.

Bally Total Fitness® Exercise Ball = $25 versus
Apex Flat Bench = $39.88

I'd go with the flat bench/coffee table versus the cupboard-topping
sphere. Meh.

> I would certainly agree if that if he's got a bench, or
> can practically, get one, he should go for that.

Damn it, Anderson! How do you expect this to degenerate into a
flame-ridden attack and counter-attack with "he should go for that" as
your response?!

> I guess i was extrapolating from my own experience,
> which is that i don't, and wouldn't have somewhere
> to put one;

Get rid of your coffee table. Or one of your chairs. I live in a phone
booth and, still, there's my bench.

> in that situation, a ball is more practical than a
> bench as something to get. You can stick a ball
> on top of a cupboard or something when you're
> not using it; can't do that so easily with a bench.
> Which said:
>
> http://www.phun.org/newspics/funny_friday/1175.jpg

I do believe they removed that jpeg, however I'm NOT complaining. The
"SingleGirlPortal - Hundreds of Single Girl galleries" kinda too away
the sting. ;o)

> tom

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On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Stephan Carydakis wrote:

> "Tom Anderson" <twic DeleteThis @urchin.earth.li> wrote in message
> news:Pine.LNX.4.62.0611261637490.16924@urchin.earth.li...
>> On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Pete wrote:
>>
>>> "Tom Anderson" <twic DeleteThis @urchin.earth.li> schreef:
>>>
>>>> Yes. There are some pictures of a chap doing it here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.bench-press.net/swiss-ball-bench-press.html
>>>
>>> What a weird exercise.
>>>
>>> Whats the point?
>>
>> It's how you do a bench press if you don't have a bench. That's all.
>
> But you'd have to get a ball right? So wouldn't a bench be how you do a
> bench press if you don't have a ball?

A ball's going to be smaller and cheaper than a bench.

I would certainly agree if that if he's got a bench, or can practically,
get one, he should go for that. I guess i was extrapolating from my own
experience, which is that i don't, and wouldn't have somewhere to put one;
in that situation, a ball is more practical than a bench as something to
get. You can stick a ball on top of a cupboard or something when you're
not using it; can't do that so easily with a bench. Which said:

http://www.phun.org/newspics/funny_friday/1175.jpg

tom

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pushups in Australia

"Bully" <bully1.DeleteThis@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote in message
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>
> "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
matter,
> and those who matter don't mind."
> - Dr. Seuss
>
> "Andrzej Rosa" <bakters.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ek9dlr$hd1$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
> > ["Followup-To:" header set to misc.fitness.weights.]
> > Dnia 2006-11-25 smokejo.DeleteThis@googlemail.com napisa³(a):
> >> Hello everyone
> >>
> >> I was just after a little advice really, there seems to be so much on
> >> the web, but I figured it would be better getting info from the horses
> >> mouth, so to speak.
> >>
> >> I'd like to develop my upper body somewhat, I'm fairly slim at the
> >> moment (apart from a growing belly!)....I don't really get a chance to
> >> do much exercise these days cos of work/studying hassles...I'm 29,
> >> male, about 65Kg and 5'11.
> >>
> >> What I've started doing is 30 pressups
> >
> > You mean pushups?
>
> No, in English, they are, always have been, and hopefully always will be
> press-ups!
>
>
> [...]
>
>
> --
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>
>
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Stephan Carydakis wrote:
> pushups in Australia
>
> "Bully" <bully1.DeleteThis@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote in message
> news:4st2fmF116814U1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
>> matter, and those who matter don't mind."
>> - Dr. Seuss
>>
>> "Andrzej Rosa" <bakters.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:ek9dlr$hd1$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
>>> ["Followup-To:" header set to misc.fitness.weights.]
>>> Dnia 2006-11-25 smokejo.DeleteThis@googlemail.com napisa³(a):
>>>> Hello everyone
>>>>
>>>> I was just after a little advice really, there seems to be so much
>>>> on the web, but I figured it would be better getting info from the
>>>> horses mouth, so to speak.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to develop my upper body somewhat, I'm fairly slim at the
>>>> moment (apart from a growing belly!)....I don't really get a
>>>> chance to do much exercise these days cos of work/studying
>>>> hassles...I'm 29, male, about 65Kg and 5'11.
>>>>
>>>> What I've started doing is 30 pressups
>>>
>>> You mean pushups?
>>
>> No, in English, they are, always have been, and hopefully always
>> will be press-ups!
>>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bully
>> Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

Top-posting in Australia, too !

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"Tom Anderson" <twic RemoveThis @urchin.earth.li> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Pete wrote:
>
> > "Tom Anderson" <twic RemoveThis @urchin.earth.li> schreef:
> >
> >> Yes. There are some pictures of a chap doing it here:
> >>
> >> http://www.bench-press.net/swiss-ball-bench-press.html
> >
> > What a weird exercise.
> >
> > Whats the point?
>
> It's how you do a bench press if you don't have a bench. That's all.
>

But you'd have to get a ball right? So wouldn't a bench be how you do a
bench press if you don't have a ball?

> tom
>
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